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^ Hardware wrote:
Do you have one? : ) [Or do they only come in pairs?]
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Drew suggests don't charge the ammo tax at gun ranges. So then people can't argue about practice. As someone who has gone shooting many times, I can't imagine going to a range and standing next to a stranger with a gun who may or may not know how to operate that thing. But people do...
 
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^ Lots of beginners classes are held at gun ranges.
 
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That's what immediately came to the mind of many people of color.

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is one of the first things I thought about when I started thinking about armed teachers in schools.
People get angry, they get stupid, they get carried away.
 
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Betsy DeVos angers shooting survivors



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^ Another PR stunt/photo op hatched by FM45 no doubt.

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I assume she has a lot of free time, and is looking for something to do to earn her paycheck.

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Maybe she was on her way to Mar-a-Lago, or maybe just the beach. Or a stopover on the way to a Caribbean island.

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People like to schedule their 'work' conferences in Hawaii and Florida.
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Hey Heston! Losing the grip from your cold dead hands? (pun intended)
 
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Of course, this is basically the overall problem with arming teachers -- or with the hypothetical "John McLane" at any workplace. A civilian with OR without a gun becomes a target. Look, I have nothing against white guys -- why some of my best friends are Caucausoid! -- but there's no doubt, that they are overly represented amongst the ranks of mass shooters. And, thinking back to some of my teachers back in the day, a lot of them, um, let's be generous here, do not have the best fashion sense. Who's to say a Black cop wont roll into a school and shoot the first skinny, bespectacled, balding guy with a gun he sees? Oops! That was Mr McKinney of 4th period biology. He's now become one of his own cadavers!
So this "arm the teachers" bushwah just creates more problems than it solves.
 
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^ It is being bandied about to deflect people from addressing the real issue.

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^Of course by "real issue", you are referring to
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^Which is the same thing LaPierre did after Newton.
 
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Same shit they tried to run on Ozzy, Judas Priest and Metallica in the 80's. Why is it school spirit when Texas does \m/ at a game, yet when I \m/ at a concert I saluting the devil? Get bent assholes.
FYI: You can't make a seed grow that isn't already there. The 24 hour news cycle is more harmful than any record or video game ever created, but since it's supposedly real that's different. Fuck off.
 
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^ I remember that hearing. Dee Snyder from Twisted Sister and Frank Zappa testified.
 
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Fucking PMRC - Dee and Frank destroyed them.

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The deputy had said that the reason he didn't enter the building was that he thought the shootings were coming from outside the building. That was a lie.
And I want to reiterate -- the guy made over $100,000 a year, had worked at the school since 2009, and did know the students and teachers. His training and protocol was that he should enter the building.

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The families of those kids have to live with this.
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I'd say he'd done it before:
Both of those sound like deselection of duty and cowardice to me.

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I dunno. I guess we'll find out.
It doesn't help to wonder 'what could have been' had he entered the school. We'll never know that.
What we know, and what the families know, is that someone who was there to keep kids safe, and who knew these kids, hid outside and told other cops to keep their distance.
And then he lied and said he thought the shots were outside the building.
It's absolutely devastating.
 
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^'
I mean the two previous times. This last one was bogus from the start. Anyone who thinks that you can't tell if arms fire is inside or outside a building is an idiot.
 
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Well that didn't take long: [link inactive:404 - Page not found]NRA files lawsuit over Florida gun control law
 
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Are they able to explain how law abiding 18 year olds can be trusted with AR 15s but are subject to arrest if they have a 6 pack of beer?
 
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Of course not.
 
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^ That's a good start! Let's hope it doesn't end there!
 
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Lawsuit on route, I have no doubt.
 
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^ No doubt indeed. The No-good Raga-muffin Ass-ociation filed a suit against Florida already.
Oops! I just saw that you've already pointed that out.
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This is worse than the Cold War. because at least at that time, there was a known enemy. You now literally have no idea where it may come from. I truly pity kids today. They have no childhood anymore.
"When will it be over?" No child should say this. Ever.
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[link inactive:404 - Page not found]Florida prosecutors seeking death penalty in school shooting
 
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Normally, I'm against the death penalty, but in this case, absolutely, go for it.
And no I don't think it's a "deterrent" or anything like that. But Cruz is young. Do we really want to have him just sititing in a cell for the next 60-70 years?
 
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And on March 24th, it's the "March For Our Lives"
Also of note:
 
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^^ Way to go, Joshua!

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^^
Had there been students upstairs, someone might have been killed.
By the way, it was a public safety class.

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So on the day of the school walkout, a month since the heartbreaking shooting in FL., the NRA tweets this picture of an AR-15.
I am a gun owner, and I have never been a member nor a supporter of the NRA. Up until maybe a decade ago, I just viewed them as a group that I disagreed with. Then when Obama was elected, those people went nuts with their fanaticism. But ever since they started coming out with videos like , I realized that these fuckers have turned into a terrorist organization.
Most advocacy organizations will release emotional videos from time to time to get their members (or prospective members) fired up about the issues they represent. However, the NRA is really in a special category that should come with a much more robust set of responsibilities. In the video I linked, Loesch puts the NYT on notice by saying over and over, "We've had it with your (insert stupid bullshit)." When an organization that supports firearm freedoms puts out a highly emotional video spilling over with anger, only the most naive among us would deny that these sorts of videos have the real potential of inciting violence among their supporters. I will take it further - I think the NRA wants people that they disagree with to be shot, and they are goading their members to do the shooting. These fuckers are trying to start a civil war.

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Posted - Mar 14 2018 : 11:27PM
Well, it would sell guns.

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You know, now that I reflect on it, arms dealers are not pacifists.
I don't think they spend a lot of time trying to stop wars, or make peace or de-escalate.
Arms traffickers aren't very nice people, and they don't much care who dies.

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^Arms dealers and the NRA have existed longer than I have been alive. I'm sure they always been pretty unconcerned about firearms deaths; or at least unconcerned until they get blowback from angry lawmakers. But the obvious messages directly from an NRA spokesperson to members to use violence against those that disagree (see Loesch say to members of the mainstream media, "...consider this the shot across your proverbial bow..." in the video) is something new. I have been receiving NRA propaganda for a long time (I must be on a gun owner database). The Dana Loesch videos and the frighteningly aggressive ad campaigns signal a new and dangerous turn for the organization.
But you're probably right about these videos helping gun sales. Whoopee for them, I guess.
 
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