Reviewers Recommend
- review by Captain Jack
Director: Mason
Starring: Mandingo, Pristine Edge, Sophia Leone, Moka Mora, Ivy Lebelle.
All smartbuydisc.rus > World News Nonsense > +300 mass shootings so far this year... > +300 mass shootings so far this year... (page 9)
Page 9 of 13 First < 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > Last
AuthorPost
 
All-Star Member

BOYCOTT JAMES DEEN - BOYCOTT COMPANIES THAT BOOK HIM OR SELL HIS WORK. YES, IT'S THAT BLACK & WHITE.
6915 Posts
8/15
Posted - May 20 2018 : 3:51AM


Senior Member

3149 Posts
1/09
Posted - May 20 2018 : 4:14AM
^ That's really comforting news to the victims families. NOT

Senior Member

2937 Posts
2/15
Posted - May 20 2018 : 5:13AM
Thanks Pieps.
So I guess it's correct. Oh my god!
 
All-Star Member

BOYCOTT JAMES DEEN - BOYCOTT COMPANIES THAT BOOK HIM OR SELL HIS WORK. YES, IT'S THAT BLACK & WHITE.
6915 Posts
8/15
Posted - May 20 2018 : 7:45AM
Biglie...er.. Bagley cartoon:
Bagley Guns.png
to see fewer adsAdult DVD Talk is Sponsored by
email for advertising info
 
All-Star Member

Literotica.com - grover10
28903 Posts
11/04
Posted - May 21 2018 : 8:22AM

I wonder what would happen if 17 game devs all of a sudden decide to leave Austin? What would the Lt. Gov say then?

I'm sure The 6ix will have no problems enticing them north of the border!

Senior Member

1044 Posts
1/14
Posted - May 21 2018 : 8:43AM
As a UK citizen I'd say two things:
1. Does mention of the Royal Fucking Wedding, which I managed to avoid in its entirety, have to appear everywhere?!!
2. Please don't think rational people are afraid to come to America because of this. I'm as outspoken as any European against liberal gun laws but the two seperate month long holidays I've spent in the States were two of the best I've ever had and I would go back in a heartbeat. You have much to be embarrassed about, as does any country on earth including mine, but a lot to be proud of as well. I'd add that I saw no violence whatsoever in the two months I spent on holiday, which included touring on buses and staying in cheap motels, and less drunken behaviour than I see on any given weekend in London.
On the announcement that this 17 year old kid can't face the death penalty, I say good. I'm fervently opposed to the death penalty full stop but if your country has it I argue that no one should face the death penalty for what they did as a child.
 
All-Star Member

Literotica.com - grover10
28903 Posts
11/04
Posted - May 21 2018 : 8:50AM
^
Well, I'm glad that you had a great experience visiting America.

Senior Member

1044 Posts
1/14
Posted - May 21 2018 : 10:36AM
Quote from the article -
"Experts say that Trump's proposed travel bans, anti-immigration language, and heightened security measures have had a negative impact on the U.S.'s attraction for foreign visitors."
It also said this downturn has been happening ever since Trump got in. No evidence I can see that fear of getting shot is a significant factor.
 
All-Star Member

Literotica.com - grover10
28903 Posts
11/04
Posted - May 21 2018 : 11:53AM
^
 
All-Star Member

flickr.com/jman5245
4289 Posts
5/09
Posted - May 21 2018 : 12:31PM
^ That article is from November 13, 2017, only six weeks after the shooting.
 
All-Star Member

Literotica.com - grover10
28903 Posts
11/04
Posted - May 21 2018 : 1:22PM
^

Senior Member

tGrump has no shortage of assholes.
6974 Posts
11/13
Posted - May 21 2018 : 1:46PM
Gabby Giffords' husband Mark Kelly just repeated on msnbc that this year there have been more shooting deaths in schools than there have been in the U.S. military.
The article also addressed one of my first thoughts -- that surely the relative odds are higher in the military, due to the actual huge number of students.
So. People are talking more about home schooling. This is one way to get rid of public schools. That would 'solve' the problem. You know. Sort of.

Senior Member

2886 Posts
12/12
Posted - May 21 2018 : 9:41PM
Statistically that's about 00.00001% of incidents where police are involved. You're trying too hard to race-bait on a very serious issue. What you're spreading is just fear-mongering which only results in hysteria which in turn yields yet more inexplicably aberrant behavior on the part of suspects like Alton Sterling who throw their lives away by taking utterly incomprehensible and unfathomably insane actions. Quit perpetuating this hysteria. Twice as many whites are killed by police, even though whites don't commit the majority of murders. Black police are likelier to use lethal force on black suspects, which should come as no surprise given they are likelier to serve in areas with much higher rates of homicide. Also, even more unarmed whites are killed than any other, again, despite the fact that their per-capita rates of homicide are lower than among black or Hispanic community. Also, did you never consider the question of why Asians who are 5% of the American population are just 2% of those killed by police?
This is the problem. Every time the goalposts shift, there is another damning reality check.
People scream hysterically about police running rampant and committing racist murders with impunity, e.g. "open season on blacks" - but this is thoroughly debunked once you do even a modicum of research into the matter. It's complete bollocks. There are over 700,000 police in America. The most belligerent and hostile agitators out there don't have a clue about these numbers. It's just hysteria and rhetoric fueled by anecdote and emotion.
Next after it is explained how preposterous this is, they say, but cops kill unarmed blacks way more. Again, this is flat-out bogus, just like "hands up, don't shoot" per Eric Holder.
All it takes is a tiny bit of rationality and objective research to dispel these pernicious myths which only make situations far worse by escalating tensions. Why is it so hard to keep things into perspective? Because the multi-billion dollar news media organizations out there are fueled by focusing on the outliers and extremely rare exceptions to the rule, rather than the rule. If they ever kept things in perspective and focused on the rule, they would go out of business overnight.
This is why you are always focused on the 1% of 1% of what is happening in the world, and totally ignoring the 99.99%
If you ever want to have a civil, live discussion about this, choose the platform. I'll be happy to explain all of this in detail.

Senior Member

2886 Posts
12/12
Posted - May 21 2018 : 10:50PM
What is the point of the "gun free" zone if there is nobody available to protect the disarmed masses? Is it to make things as easy as possible for the monsters out there who want to do as much harm as possible with as little resistance possible?
I'm not referencing the latest school shooting in Santa Fe, because I don't yet know what sort of security they might have had. But I'm just asking broadly to the topic of mass shootings, since it seems at least 97% of the victims are either unarmed or in "gun free" zones. These perpetrators are not just sick but cowardly too. By and large they target groups with minimal security. They want to do as much harm as they can with the least resistance. And every time these stories blow up in the media, it's just another reminder how vulnerable schools are.
They said #NeverAgain but there is literally nothing in terms of a deterrent which stands in the way of these massacres.
to see fewer adsAdult DVD Talk is Sponsored by
email for advertising info

Senior Member

tGrump has no shortage of assholes.
6974 Posts
11/13
Posted - May 21 2018 : 10:53PM
Thanks.
I'll focus on what I want to focus on, thanks.
It's not 1% of 1%.
And I disagree that it's a good idea to advise the Waffle House guy to be brandishing firearms.

Senior Member

tGrump has no shortage of assholes.
6974 Posts
11/13
Posted - May 21 2018 : 10:57PM
I'm sure it's the Ritalin. Or the number of doors in schools. Or video games.
Because there's no Ritalin in Sweden or New Zealand, and fewer doors on schools, and people there don't play video games.

Senior Member

2886 Posts
12/12
Posted - May 21 2018 : 11:07PM
The parole part is unbelievable. But the avoidance of the death penalty is less concerning. Texas puts more people to death than any other state, right? If it were the effective deterrent people wish it was, is there evidence to show that it's helped them? Is their murder rate lower? Incidence of mass shooting per-capita lower?
Obviously most if not all of the bereaved want this psycho executed. I watched a well done documentary on the University of Texas Tower shooting incident from 1966. One of the victims who was shot but fortunate enough to live and tell her story said she forgave him. No doubt the exception to the rule. She was pregnant and lost her child because of the traumatic injury which left her paralyzed on the pavement out there in the midday 100 degree heat for something like an hour or more.

Senior Member

2886 Posts
12/12
Posted - May 21 2018 : 11:28PM
Mass shootings are absolutely on the order of no greater than 1% of 1% of all violent crime. Actually it is far less than even this.
Brandishing and having on ones person can be dramatically different things. You can go ahead and be content that no one else was armed. That just strikes me as bizarre. Do you think if you could ask all the people who lived through such a massacre whether they would rather be unarmed in such a situation again, that they would say yes?
Consider the battle Kyle Kashuv, one of the many Parkland shooting survivors, is fighting at this point in time, and all the antipathy that he is going up against, even though the overwhelming preponderance of data supports his side. It's truly incredible.
Kyle is on the side that still believes in people, that 99.99% of us are good, and we CAN trust each other. Most of the students that the media has put a limelight on are pushing fear and contempt. That's precisely why the media loves them. It's that dark narrative of the 1% of 1% again, so sinister we have no choice but to appeal to a higher authority. The same authority which ironically you were previously calling into question.
I have yet to see the people who indict "the system" as oppressive, e.g. racist, murderous, patriarchal, etc, square their reasoning with the "we must disarm 99.9999% of the population, so that ONLY said system has the power to take life" idea...
Trump is LITERALLY HITLER. Also only gov should have guns.
Makes sense...
Edited by - melvyn on 5/21/2018 11:29:06 PM

Senior Member

tGrump has no shortage of assholes.
6974 Posts
11/13
Posted - May 21 2018 : 11:53PM
Nonsense. Straw man.
I've seen nobody asserting that we should disarm 99.999% of the population. It's bullshit. Advocating that we don't need to allow gun sales to people on the terrorist watch list, advocating that we don't need to sell guns to the mentally ill, and failing to see the need of the avarage 18 year old to own semi-automatic weapons or bump stocks -- not the same thing. It's reasonable, and it's far less than the gun restrictions in free, safe places in which I have lived, like England and Canada.
If there is anything that characterizes people like me, it's NOT that we think that only the government should have guns.

Senior Member

tGrump has no shortage of assholes.
6974 Posts
11/13
Posted - May 21 2018 : 11:57PM
Today I saw that Texas governor Greg Abbott dropped his plans for a shotgun giveaway just a few hours ago in light of backlash after the most recent school shooting there. My question is, why was there yet another gun giveaway? Republican politicians don't give away cars, or flat screen tv's or computers, or beer, or books or iphones, or Armani suits. Why are they giving away bump stocks and guns?
All I can figure is they don't care to promote computers for kids, or books, or Toyotas, or toasters, or fidget spinners, but they are compelled to affirm and promote guns. Now why would that be?

Senior Member

2886 Posts
12/12
Posted - May 22 2018 : 12:23AM
I'm not interested in scapegoating two of those in particular, but the issue of entrances is a legitimate matter of logistics. I asked how can you or any of us expect any change regarding this issue as long as the media keep advertising schools as such easy targets with no resistance? Even if we did put one or two armed guards at every school, most schools are easily entered from dozens of access points.
The only way this will work is if they design schools to have limited access points. You want to mock video games or Ritalin being scapegoated, fine go right ahead. The video game thing in particular is absurd and completely backwards, given that violent crime has been declining dramatically over the last 25 years, just as games got increasingly violent and graphic. Pharmaceuticals are a grave matter, but still not sure if they can be scapegoated. The numbers we are dealing with regarding mass shootings are so infinitesimal in the context of the sheer scope of the population and prevalence of pharmaceuticals, it would require a legitimate epidemic and not the one the media is misguiding people into believing is happening.
But the basics of strategy cannot be dismissed out of hand. It cannot be made impossible to have guns in America. It can, by comparison, be far, far, FAR easier to make it impossible to get guns into schools. The latter is virtually INFINITELY easier. School always felt like a prison, I see little issue with making them appear marginally more like them anyway. I remember my elementary looked like a damn penitentiary. What difference would it have made if it was run like one? For me and probably most kids, there is no difference. It already is a fucking prison. May as well make them at least as safe, ya think? I mean if this cannot even be considered the goal, then wtf are we talking about?
They NEED to make changes to make schools more secure. It's going to demand some sorts of compromises. It doesn't matter what side of 2A we are on. Making schools more secure has to be a common goal.
Despite the adorable demonstrations of people turning their guns in to police, 99.99% of gun owners find this utterly repugnant. Even incentivizing via a buy-back program will never work. I do think there could be a way of chipping guns so that they can be monitored which would benefit everyone. Will people find ways around it, including removing the chips? Of course. But it will make it harder overall to get them into places undetected. This would actually benefit gun manufacturers too, because if there's ever a mandate for guns to be chipped, people will buy new chipped guns to have while they send their older ones in to be chipped. But this really only works in conjunction with improved security personnel measures. It is still unrealistic, but at least a conceivable compromise. There are no catchall fool-proof solutions, only measures to enhance the system a bit at a time.
As long as people insist on "gun free zones" with zero armed security, you're going to have to look at schools as impenetrable keeps anyway. It's a fantasy world to think "gun free zones" with no armed security are anything but an invitation to would-be mass murderers as the most vulnerable targets out there. They are practically indefensible currently.

Senior Member

2886 Posts
12/12
Posted - May 22 2018 : 12:53AM
The message in this specific example is too vague to have practical meaning with policy implications. They are just coping, understandably. I was referring to the kids the majority of the media anointed as the "official" spokespeople for the victims of Parkland and pushing policy.
I've maintained that all of the kids, regardless of their political views, are right to be angry. The government failed them, and it really is an extension of us. If we as a society wanted armed security in schools, we'd have it done by now. Shoulda been done 20 years ago.
You haven't followed these marches much then. It is a very common sentiment.

Senior Member

tGrump has no shortage of assholes.
6974 Posts
11/13
Posted - May 22 2018 : 2:20AM
I march with people at those marches. Some of our group are ex-law enforcement officers, some are veterans. Actually, we're rural, and all of us outside city limits are a 45 minutes response time from the county seat. Cops would show up in time to draw a chalk outline around our bodies. We have bears and cougars in the area, and we own dogs and some of us raise chickens (which get menaced by various predators). A cougar was reported a while back outside the elementary school chain link fence. I'm actually not sure whether there's a one of us who doesn't own a gun. Even the guy with the anti-NRA sign. We aren't anti-gun. We are for responsible gun laws.
My car is registered, but I don't think 'they' are coming to take it away. I had to be of legal age to be licensed to drive, pass a test, and have good eyesight and so forth. I don't think 'they' are coming to get take my car. After a certain age, they like to test again to make sure you aren't a danger, and it's a good idea to check your eyes more often. But if they ask someone to stop driving, it's for a good reason, to protect the public, and not because 'they' want to confiscate everybody's car.
There is a big difference between wanting to confiscate guns and advocating for responsible ownership.

 
All-Star Member

BOYCOTT JAMES DEEN - BOYCOTT COMPANIES THAT BOOK HIM OR SELL HIS WORK. YES, IT'S THAT BLACK & WHITE.
6915 Posts
8/15
Posted - May 22 2018 : 3:26AM
They fry a black man and we both know it.
There is no real evidence that there is a deterrent, though I suspect it's because people know they won't face the chair for 20 years and even then may walk.

The one thing I don't get ie people saying it will bring them closure. No, it won't. And if it does you may be as psychotic as the person who fook out your loved one.
Only you can give yourself that, and another person dying won't be that key.
to see fewer adsAdult DVD Talk is Sponsored by
email for advertising info
 
All-Star Member

BOYCOTT JAMES DEEN - BOYCOTT COMPANIES THAT BOOK HIM OR SELL HIS WORK. YES, IT'S THAT BLACK & WHITE.
6915 Posts
8/15
Posted - May 22 2018 : 3:57AM
1} Install doors that only open from the inside on all but 1 main entry door, they should have alarms on them that go off when opened, unless a key is turned to disarm them in the principals office. All this is readily available.
2} Metal detectors shall be placed on entry door. The same detectors that are in every federal building shall be placed at the main entrance.
3} Every teacher and student shall be wanded and their bags scanned before entry.
4} The gym coaches shall notify the principal when/if they are going out and when they will return, so they can open the door.
5} 1 Armed guard shall be inside the main door for the 1st half of the day. Another will be roaming the outside of the grounds. At noon, they will switch places.
6} All K-12 campus are now closed. once you come in, you cannot leave until the day is over. Normal shit happens rules apply.
That's it.
I don't own a gun. I am pro gun ownership, pro gun control. The problem is the paranoid nra will not concede that too many idiot have them.
You do not have to be licensed to own a gun, nor pass a safety course It is not illegal to own an unregistered firearm.
You are not required to pass a training course to own one, yet you are with a car. I am fully in support of the 2nd amendment, though imo it has been perverted into much more than it was intended by the founders.
 
All-Star Member

BOYCOTT JAMES DEEN - BOYCOTT COMPANIES THAT BOOK HIM OR SELL HIS WORK. YES, IT'S THAT BLACK & WHITE.
6915 Posts
8/15
Posted - May 22 2018 : 8:39AM

 
All-Star Member

Literotica.com - grover10
28903 Posts
11/04
Posted - May 22 2018 : 8:41AM
^ So bloody true, eh?
 
All-Star Member

Woman of the Decade
13912 Posts
1/08
Posted - May 22 2018 : 9:23AM
& Simon: I don't know if you're aware but that's a running joke from the Onion since 2014. Every time there's a school shooting, they change the details, but otherwise the content is the same.

Senior Member

tGrump has no shortage of assholes.
6974 Posts
11/13
Posted - May 22 2018 : 11:52AM
Some of these might tighten things up a little. But if a pair of shooters, like the ones at Columbine, want to shoot up a school, one of them can go in unarmed, and open a back door which only opens from the inside for the other perp and the guns to come in. They won't give a shit if an alarm goes off, at that point. Locked doors and metal detectors defeated. Scanners and wands bypassed.
Coaches and so forth notifying when they are leaving and returning would be crazy. Coordinating that would look something like this:
switchboard.jpg
A lot of schools have the gym, the theater, etc. in different buildings. In Arizona and California (and probably a whole lot of other mellow-weather states) the classrooms are in clusters of little buildings that hold 1-4 classrooms. Kids move freely from one class to another, and the classroom entries are from the outside, not from a hallway; like a Motel 6, not a Sheraton. Nothing about entry doors and scanning applies.
Does your plan keep people from leaving if they have seizures or some other medical emergency? A school is not a prison.
Anybody who has taught school knows that a typical hour of class can look like this: one student is leaving this hour for speech therapy, or needs to go to remedial reading. A couple of kids have a library pass, or a couple are missing because drama club went to a meet in another town. There is a constant flow of kids in and out. One time I had a Biology test scheduled for the kids, and when the big day arrived, none of the boys showed up. They had all been ordered by the coach to run laps.
Your imaginary school looks like this:
school.jpg
Or this:
school one door.jpg
Every school I went to in San Jose, California--and there were seven of them--had every classroom open to the outside, no indoor hallway. They were more like this:
school real.jpg
school real multi door.jpg
school piedmont hills.jpg
In Arizona, one of the typical schools was comprised of a large number of hexagonal buildings, each holding one classroon. They were as cute as a bug. I can't find a online photo. There are thousands of schools like this. We didn't used to have any school shootings, ever, so schools weren't designed to withstand military attacks.

Edited by - Pieps on 5/22/2018 12:16:04 PM

 
All-Star Member

Woman of the Decade
13912 Posts
1/08
Posted - May 22 2018 : 4:36PM

 
All-Star Member

Woman of the Decade
13912 Posts
1/08
Posted - May 22 2018 : 5:02PM
[Tweet is no longer available]
 
All-Star Member

Literotica.com - grover10
28903 Posts
11/04
Posted - May 23 2018 : 9:29AM

Incoming NRA president Oliver North has blamed school shootings on a "culture of violence," but CNN's Anderson Cooper points out that North was a consultant on "Call of Duty," a violent and graphic video game.
 
All-Star Member

"liable to deprave and corrupt"
5501 Posts
5/04
Posted - May 23 2018 : 3:43PM
I know.
Jacco

Senior Member

1386 Posts
3/06
Posted - May 23 2018 : 5:08PM
I'm a second amendment supporter, but I will no longer take a strong stand in light of all that has happened. What I will say is that the only legal way to control gun availability would be a constitutional amendment, a difficult task politically. But even that would not be enough, you will actually have to go and get all the guns that are out there, an even more difficult political pill to pass. I am not in favor of this, but I would no longer fight it if it goes in that direction.
What I will say is that people that have guns have a responsibility to control them and should be held legally liable as co-conspirators when they fail to do this.
Five and a half years ago a felon who served 17 years for killing his grandmother with a hammer killed a couple firemen. He couldn't buy a gun himself, so he gave cash to his neighbor who then went and bought it for him. She should have been charged. This is one example, but I could list dozens I am aware of, and the latest school shootings are examples.
All my guns are locked and the ammunition is separate and locked. I have a legal carry gun that is on me most of the time, but when I go to sleep it is in a quick access lock box in the bureau next to my bed. No one can get access to my guns without either cracking a safe, or the ammunition without cutting a lock, and then they have to find it and know what they are looking for. I don't advertise them so it is not obvious I have them or where they are. That should be the standard people should be held responsible for.

Senior Member

1386 Posts
3/06
Posted - May 23 2018 : 5:27PM
I agree with several posters that there should be more gun control and the second amendment has been perverted to prevent this. I also agree with posters that talk about better school security. The reason the death penalty is no longer a deterrent is because the appeals process has also been perverted. A few years back a black man was executed in Savannah Ga after 30 years on death row. It was really a cut and dried case. He shot an off duty police officer in the back, killed him, as he was running past him to go to the aid of another of his shooting victims. It went through four federal appellate court reviews and a Supreme Court review of the evidence to insure there was no racial bias. Yet on the day of his execution there were protests all over the world. What everyone missed was there was another execution the same day in Texas that no one protested. Some of you may remember when a white man chained a black man to the back of his truck and drug him to death. That happened ten years before his execution. How the hell did that take ten years?
 
Golden Age Classic

13495 Posts
5/01
Posted - May 23 2018 : 6:31PM
This!
This is what all gun owners should do.
I think we have reached the point where gun safety classes should be taught in school (How to properly and safely use a gun) and that anyone buying a gun should have to pass a gun safety exam. And what Tripper said, "people that have guns have a responsibility to control them and should be held legally liable as co-conspirators when they fail to do this."
. Yet no one is charging the parents by leaving their guns where children could access them.

Senior Member

1386 Posts
3/06
Posted - May 23 2018 : 8:46PM
I don't understand why the parents are not charged with negligent child abuse.
In the mid 80's I lived in Little Rock Arkansas. If you know anything about handguns, if your revolver does not have hammer block, you should keep an empty chamber under the hammer. It's simple, when you go to use the gun, and pull the trigger, the chamber rotates, so the gun will fire when you pull the trigger. So she left a laundry, connected to a dry cleaners with her purse on top of her laundry. A very unlucky, young doctor, early 30's, with a young wife and two kids, was leaving from the dry cleaning side. (FYI Little Rock has a medical university and a large and really qualified medical profession, or at least it did, I don't know the current status). In any event, her purse fell off the laundry, and since she had a cheep gun and didn't have an empty round under the hammer, the gun went off, shot the young doctor through the heart, and killed him on the spot. I was shocked when she wasn't charged. A clear case of negligent homicide, murder 3rd degree.
This has to stop. People need to be held responsible for mis-deeds by the guns they own if they choose to own guns.
Edited by - tripper on 6/7/2018 6:46:42 PM
 
All-Star Member

BOYCOTT JAMES DEEN - BOYCOTT COMPANIES THAT BOOK HIM OR SELL HIS WORK. YES, IT'S THAT BLACK & WHITE.
6915 Posts
8/15
Posted - May 23 2018 : 9:03PM
^
NRA insanity. Any loss is a direct assault on their rights.

Senior Member

1386 Posts
3/06
Posted - May 23 2018 : 9:33PM
^ Come on man, this wasn't an NRA issue. It was the Little Rock justice department that just didn't go for manslaughter. I lived there at the time and I saw no NRA involvement.
Is it also the NRA in the cases Flash wrote about?
Edited by - tripper on 5/23/2018 10:18:00 PM
 
All-Star Member

BOYCOTT JAMES DEEN - BOYCOTT COMPANIES THAT BOOK HIM OR SELL HIS WORK. YES, IT'S THAT BLACK & WHITE.
6915 Posts
8/15
Posted - May 23 2018 : 10:17PM
^
They may not have been there at that specific instance, but anytime they perceive that a law may have traction, no matter how logical, they act.
The NRA is a direct force against any logical gun control.

Senior Member

1386 Posts
3/06
Posted - May 23 2018 : 10:23PM
^ I was editing my post at the same time you were posting. You can look up and see it. I don't have the same view you do of the NRA, but I have acknowldeged that we need new views on and stricter gun control. I believe they have an important free rights position in this country, the same as many organizations I disagree with.
 
All-Star Member

BOYCOTT JAMES DEEN - BOYCOTT COMPANIES THAT BOOK HIM OR SELL HIS WORK. YES, IT'S THAT BLACK & WHITE.
6915 Posts
8/15
Posted - May 23 2018 : 10:35PM
^
I am pro gun rights but saying people do not need to be licensed and trained to own a fire arm is insanity and only the most myopic (not you I am thinking) thinks that it is.
As forward thinking as that wonderful document is, there is no way on earth the could have foreseen the way this would be twisted into what it has become.
Most of these same people, {again, in probability not you} are the same people who want to take the same freedoms from other people. Abortion, protests, religion, speech, they would take those in a second if they could.
Except for 2 things, every deadly thing known on this planet is regulated. You cannot regulate a persons thoughts, though everyone certainly keeps trying, so that is out of play.
Why are guns not regulated? Because the NRA uses their money to block it.
 
All-Star Member

4629 Posts
8/11
Posted - May 24 2018 : 1:48AM
Shana's mother was the one who used the word embarrassed to describe her daughter's actions in rejecting him. I'm all for media bashing, but hard to find fault with them here.
 
All-Star Member

BOYCOTT JAMES DEEN - BOYCOTT COMPANIES THAT BOOK HIM OR SELL HIS WORK. YES, IT'S THAT BLACK & WHITE.
6915 Posts
8/15
Posted - May 24 2018 : 4:09AM
^
By all accounts he pursued and harassed her for months. She told her parents, why the fuck did they not escalate this with all the insanity going around? Mummy is making it sound like daughter was partially at fault. Fuck that.
 
All-Star Member

Woman of the Decade
13912 Posts
1/08
Posted - May 24 2018 : 6:08AM
Edited by - Smiler Grogan on 5/24/2018 9:03:06 AM
 
All-Star Member

BOYCOTT JAMES DEEN - BOYCOTT COMPANIES THAT BOOK HIM OR SELL HIS WORK. YES, IT'S THAT BLACK & WHITE.
6915 Posts
8/15
Posted - May 24 2018 : 7:36AM
^
By listening when your daughter says she thinks a psycho is going to kill her? Fuck off mom. It's on you that you can't look in the mirror and say you did all you could do.

Senior Member

tGrump has no shortage of assholes.
6974 Posts
11/13
Posted - May 24 2018 : 10:31AM
As I mentioned here:
Hello incels. If some guy wants to put his cock up your ass, are you obligated to go along with it, even if he really really wants to? Or your mouth. Whatever. No. Nobody is obligated to be penetrated. You get to say no. You get to be as picky as you want. You get to never say yes to anybody if that's your choice. It's simple.
What is a girl supposed to do if creepy unshowered loner asks her out 50 times. Her originally polite rebuffs are going to have to become more definitive. She is going to be creeped out and she will talk about it to her friends. I would never encourage a kid to disregard their fear of someone. Any mom who encourages her daughter to befriend the creepy loner is now officially nuts.
 
All-Star Member

BOYCOTT JAMES DEEN - BOYCOTT COMPANIES THAT BOOK HIM OR SELL HIS WORK. YES, IT'S THAT BLACK & WHITE.
6915 Posts
8/15
Posted - May 25 2018 : 4:07AM
Ted Nugent:

Senior Member

tGrump has no shortage of assholes.
6974 Posts
11/13
Posted - May 25 2018 : 11:12AM

Senior Member

2886 Posts
12/12
Posted - May 25 2018 : 1:36PM
BTW, Pieps, I appreciate that you are at least attempting to look at things from a logistical/tactical perspective. Whatever measures we take (which we will probably never live to regard as "solutions" to the issue) they will HAVE to take things into account such as design and security.
I still think many owe it to themselves to listen to that Nuance Bro video I linked to earlier. He's as informed and well-versed on the statutes, history, and mechanics as any journalist I've seen, and he's independent.
Edited by - melvyn on 5/25/2018 1:45:51 PM
Page 9 of 13 First < 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 > Last



Jump To:

Online porn video at mobile phone