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^ okay, but why are producers pushing certain product? This isnt one big fantasy industry where logistics and consumer reports can be ignored.
Wesley Pipes had an interview on Youtube a few years ago where he basically stated that viewers wanted to see black guys with white girls and therefore, if you wanted to get paid, you shot with the white girl

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(?) So...the audience paying for the product has no impact? So where exactly does the money for those checks come from if the audience has nothing to do with it? So IR is popular now because the companies push it and not because the audience likes it and supports it? So if the companies decided the next big thing should be girls sit on one side of a room talking dirty while the guy sits across from her jacking it that will become the next big thing if they just "push it"? You mean the reason BBW porn, midget porn, or masturbation porn doesn't sell better because the companies that make it are too lazy or stupid to "push it"? The audience is just mindless drones who just clamor for anything that's pushed on it? "Plain and simple"? If it's all a matter of what gets "pushed" then he could save himself a whole lot of money when he does his own movies by hiring cheap unknown girls to work with and "push it" on the audience. He'd apparently get the same results since the audience has nothing to do with what sells or is popular.
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That was a bit confusing to me as well. From the perspective of a newer content producer, one reason i film so much IR (besides the fact I like it lol) is because it sells well. Rimjobs, puke, raceplay, and all the kinky stuff i do is because it all sells well. The audience is the biggest determinant of what we do. Look at the major studios turning to classy IR because of Blacked. The audience responded positively to this content, the dvds are consistently top sellers, so now its a thing. The studios do get to push the product out, but if the audience doesnt like it, then the studio must change or lose money.
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I think he meant that the companies pushed it for first , putting under the nose of many customers things they didn't know they would like until shown or even shoved up their asses , and while doing so it's them the ones consistently risking their money when they begun.
of course once you did that there would be a demand for it and an evolution for such demand differentiating the offer of the same subject.
Since he's talking about Jules Jordan, we must keep in mind that he was one of the first who pushed especially on all IR titles , some 17 or 18 years ago with ihis Lex the Impaler series or the Once You Go Black series , was also one of the first who had the courage to issue an entire line over one single African American male performer . We're not talking minor companies o black owned companies aimed mostly to black costumers , we're talking about costly high end products targeted to the white high end audience.
More than that while the others Evil Angel titles were pure gonzo depicting some extreme acts such as double anals, triple penetrations gangbangs (take a look to Flesh Hunter 1 or Space Invaderz from Jules himself or Rocco's movies of that time. The interracial themed ones were quite tamed , the only "extreme" feature related to their dick's size.
Consider what Jake Steed was doing at the same time with his ... Big Black Monster Dicks , he had to put in some devilish , possessed black guys attacking some helpless white girls.
Edited by - LCF on 2/26/2017 11:25:49 AM

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I'll give Jules props producing the types of IR content he did back then and I think he had a lot to do with bringing a classier side to IR back then compared to what was going on elsewhere in the porn world but that doesn't change Prince's take/answer on what drives what type of porn is popular and the audience's part in it. Jules may have originally taken a risk with doing that type of IR but at some point the audience responded positively to it so Jules did more of it. As any smart business person would do. Prince gives Jules props but the other side of the coin is Jules was probably one of the first producers to do what bothers Prince so much these days...namely, offer girls big money for IR. So while he's giving Jules props, with all things being fair he should lump him in with the current people responsible for the current big payday situation. I back Jules and any studio that makes the business choices that will give the fans what they want and make profits to keep their business afloat as long as they aren't hurting anyone or any performers.
Times change, people change, tastes change. Back then I'm sure the people making porn made the type of porn people were responding to. I'm pretty sure some of the people behind making the porn back then didn't want make that type of stereotypical over the top type of stuff but that's what probably worked best for them. That's still true even today. Some porn studios don't have the skill and money to make the type of IR BLACKED or JULES does so they play up their strengths and carve out a niche for themselves by offering something different. Perhaps a company like DOGFART can't pull off the classier stuff like BLACKED so they concentrate on playing up the cuckold angle or whatever and they've cultivated a big enough audience to sustain making that type of niche porn. Another studio might look at BLACKED and decide there's a big part of the audience who likes a slicker look but wants harder type sex. It all about finding your niche and strengths and building off that to see if there's a big enough part of the audience to be able to sustain you.
And that ties right back into the first part of the discussion. The people doing porn try different things until they see what clicks with the audience and then figure out how to get better at giving them that. Some things work. Some things fail. Some things only work for awhile. But at the heart of it all it's all based on paying audience reaction.

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Interracial sells big time. It has to be one of the top 5 categories. Every time I check AdultDVDEmpire top selling charts or XRentDVD, almost half, or frequently more than half, of the best sellers are IR releases. Granted, Blacked is getting the lion's share of sales, but even before Blacked, IR sold quite well. And now I think it's selling even better. And it's usually multiple different companies in the top 10 sellers with IR releases. You got Blacked, DarkX, Jules Jordan, Dogfart, ArchAngel, etc.


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Do not forget that the top sellers among sites are Brazzers and Bangbros to them IR is but a fraction of their overall productions , besides while whatever you do IR falls in just one category all the others are divided into different branches such as MILFs, Teens, BBW, BigTits ,threesomes and more, Anal , DP , Latino, Step-something and whatever fits your fantasy. these all have a dedicated site with no racial label.
Blacked only produces an IR every 5 days or 6 per month Brazzers does 6 per week or even more , sure as a single shoot or DVD Blacked does sell extremely well but all sum up I doubt they match half the sales of say Reality King as a whole.
So yes IR sells well but is still a niche market overall

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see, I think opposite. I believe that back then Jules sought Lex and Mandingo not because they were black, but because they were young, hung, and had massive potential to reach legendary status. Above anything else, a consistent solid performer is the most essential part for producing classic material and before piracy became a worldwide phenomena, there was a higher plateau for "risks"
Look at the way those films were casted under Jules, Von Swine, Mike John, et al....Lex and Mandingo were often given a wide variety of girls, not necessarily the biggest names but girls that could handle it. They didnt just have white girls, they were given all girls. They were also featured in DP's and gangbangs with white contemporaries like Stefano and Everhard
At some point, probably around the PAWG era when social media blew up in the last 2000's early 2010's, the landscape shifted to pairing huge well endowned black guys with pristine but deviant white(or light skin in general) females to a point where fair skin mixed girls and latinas are generalized with white girls
Even with their hiatus from Jules(and after the Devoe era), Mandingo and Lex's titles remained among the best sellers on his site. Partly because they molded the new IR landscape but also because they are good performers with huge members and were often paired with the top line talent once the budget opened up. We're talking 5-6 scenes dvd's where at least 80% of the scenes were classic cant miss performances and pairings.
But, even though Manwin has been whitewashed for the most part across all of it's networks, they also took those same risks on most of their sites, Brazzers, Mofos, Reality Kings all used to prominently feature interracial content on a consistent basis but I guess they made a corporate decision to scrap it all and now they release a dvd a year or two apart to cash in on the new spike in IR popularity
 
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I didn't say that Jules hired Lex because he was black, I said he hired him despite that , in a porn world were there was no market for such a thing yet, he literally created it, I mean a series focused not on the girls but on the male, a black male at that, and yes he saw potential in him otherwise he wouldn't have risked his money over him not knowing how the market would have reacted to that
Back then there were very few talents who could support a line all by themselves or even being the focus attracting MALE customers over them . There was just Rocco and then was Lex and then all the others that followed them , sure there was Jules himself but he never put himself at the focus of his scenes, the girls are , it's not him as a performer the reason why he has customers.
I own the first issue of Lex the Impaler , i remember its first scene , it was one of the most beautiful actresses ever seen in porn , April Flowers the scene was fantastic even though he was wearing a condom, she was so into it and him. I discovered years later that she had a real life preference for black men and that was why she was so into the scene , the secon scene was Miko Lee a girl who had a great chemistry with Lex , it was just a big dick around there was something else
Edited by - LCF on 2/27/2017 4:29:31 PM

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I'm surprised to see that Porn Fidelity's newest update is an IR threesome (Nina Elle and two black guys). Definitely a surprise.

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^Aaliyah Love and Isiah Maxwell shot together for Pornfidelity recently.

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^Interesting.
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quarjackson mentioned that Ivy Rose shot her first IR for . I visited the site, which I never heard of, and was surprised to find that it boasts several first IRs.
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^He said that Ivy Rose shot with Jax Slayer.Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see anything confirming they worked together.
And wow, didn't know Brittany Shae shot outside of Darkx, pleasant surprise...

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^^
It seems like a few of them are more along the lines of first shot than first released, which is an important distinction to make (the scenes they are listing as first b/g scenes make it clear that that is what they mean).

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^Yep.

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PornFidelity trying to cash in on the contrast wave as well I see

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^ Wouldn't say they are trying to cash in since I didn't notice them making a huge deal out of it - they started hiring a lot of other guys this year and some of them happen to be black just like before when Ryan was booking black female models for his own scenes without making it some major selling point. Doubt hardcore IR fans would purchase PornFidelity/TeenFidelity membership for rare scenes with black performers anyway.
Scene with Isiah and Aaliyah has a pretty cool intro - as for sex while not as expressive as Ryan Isiah still did a decent job. Might be his only scene where creampie is shot from behind in insertion view where you can see his balls twitch as he cums inside her.


Regarding HussieAuditions former Hussie model Chloe Couture mentioned that it wasn't actually her first shot BG scene so tough to say how many are legit. In general, not sure how professional it is for an agent to shoot porn with his own models where he often performs as a male talent.

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^I was thinking that Porn Fidelity might be aiming for an IR dvd. I could be wrong though.

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^^ In his BGG scene with Karla Kush and Naomi Woods the creampie is also shot from the rear camera angle.

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^I'm overjoyed that he's continuing to expand beyond InterracalPass.

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wow, those Keisha and Marley scenes alone i think demand i order a physical copy of that.

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Found this on twitter. Anyone know who this is and what scene it's from?

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Never mind found it already. Samantha Sin in a BoundGangbangs scene.

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Has anyone seen material from Interraced.com ? can't really find any reviews on the net.

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^never heard of them until just now. looks like a euro site?

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^never heard of them until just now. looks like a euro site?

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^I thinks so since all the girls featured are from Europe, the pics seem great but my budget for porn just isn't as big as it used to be.

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I guess that would make sense business wise since there are probably people not usually interested in the site but who would like to see their take on IR with black male talents though not sure that would be appropriate since they shot with a lot of black female performers over the years and included them in DVDs based on their ​scenes premise and not race.
They recently released a scene with Chad White and Flash Brown - not sure if it would be a deal breaker for hardcore IR fans who only want to see black male talents. Wonder if there are any major directors who do this in their IR BBGs.



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I made a list of IR sites. What others am I missing?
DogfartNetwork.com
BLACKED.com
DarkX.com
Teensloveblackcocks.com
InterracialPass.com
BlackIsBetter.com
BlacksOnMoms.com
Interracialsexx.com (BrothaLovers)
BlackAmbush.com
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^ Industry Invaders but they shoot all ethnicties
The Monsters of Cock section of Bangbros
and I think if you join Mofos, you can access the back catalog of the defunct Milfs Like it Black subsite with some classic performers like Janet Mason, Cherokee(the First Nation/Native American), Liza Del Sierra, and Anikka Albrite

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^^I would like to add whiteteensblackcocks.com to that list.

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Mydeepdarksecret and Danny Ocean Adventures are another 2.

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^ The box covers for that, front and back look really hot. Is the whole movie shot with that kind of lighting? I would like to see something like that, but I don't know if maybe they just did the dramatic lighting for the photos.

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Looks like there is a new IR site part of the the Pimp.xxx network just launched last week, per the site "Exclusively in Ultra High Definition 4k pictures and videos updated weekly!"
Scenes available at launch from
Jenna Ivory
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Rachele Richey
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Stella Cox
Liza Rowe
Most Recent update
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the girl on the 19th looks familiar but I can place her
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Thanks for the updates guys! We should keep this thread more active. There's new IR developments every week in the industry. BlackCocksMatter looks like a high quality site, but I wonder how they will set themselves apart, lest they succumb to market saturation.
From their home page mission statement:
"Welcome to BCM.XXX, the home of the #BlackCocksMatter movement! Slowly sweeping the nation, and soon the world, women, both young and old have been standing up for their right to Big Black Cocks! The man can't keep them down anymore and they will get as many Big Black Cocks as they want! BCM.XXX delivers only the hottest and fucking awesome ultra high definition 4k videos of Big Black Cocks finding tight white pussy! This isn't a love story, it's the hottest interracial porn online. Join the movement today and support every pornstars right to a Big Black Cock!"
lmfao

Okay so standard marketing hype aside, I was more interested in the promise near the bottom of the page:
"WEEKLY TABOO UPDATES"
I only wish this translates to unfettered, unadulterated full-on hardcore raceplay, but I somehow doubt the top brass investors are bold enough to really get behind that. It's too early for me to judge since they just launched and I will have to wait for a larger library to subscribe. I just really hope they can distinguish themselves and deliver something with more edge than the mainstream.

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Alright, all the sites that I can think of and their release schedules:
-Blacked releases the most frequently at every 5 days.
-DarkX, IR Pass, BCM.xxx and Black Ambush release new scenes weekly; however, Black Ambush is on ice as of right now, because they're looking for someone to replace JD.
-BIB and TLBC release new scenes every other week.
-I'm not sure of the release schedules of WTBC CCHD and Brotha Lovers/Interracialsexx.
I'll add other sites as I become aware of them.
Edited by - NomnoMnOm on 9/7/2017 6:48:30 PM
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Hot as the fucking Sun. One of the best scenes I've ever viewed. It was kind of like a Brothalovers scene on steroids and uppers.

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The Keisha gangbang on DarkX

I don't usually bother with gangbangs, but damn it's Keisha tho! <3
I like how this is shot too. I don't know if it's Mason but it seems like a gonzo style shoot, more her style than the Avalon/Lansky style. Looks hot AF.
And another preview for DarkX looks pretty damn good. Narrative style doesn't always work for me, but sometimes it is great.
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Who's your favorite IR stars, female/male?
Alice Green from is a good one . i love videos with her
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^My friend, that picture is not allowed on ADT.

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My fave IR performer currently is probably Romi Rain, but honestly that could change depending on the day. There's several current active performers who are great, and I enjoy whoever is pushing the latest and hottest scene. Mandy Muse is incredible too. Also gotta love Cherie Deville, Anikka Albrite, Jada Stevens. More will come to mind.
But someone who really caught by attention recently is not a signed pro performer, but an independent (I think) model by the name of Allison Parker. She's an instagram superstar with over 2.3 million followers. She has done some private cam shows on Snapchat that have been mostly toys or solo, but evidently she's done a couple scenes with a white guy or two. Amateur stuff it looks like. But then recently she did a blowjob scene with a black boyfriend of hers. I say "a" black bf bc I don't know if it's an official relationship or not. She begins her snapchat stream by introducing him as a "friend" but then I found out she intends to do another full B/G scene with him and it was stated on some reddit thread that he's her new boyfriend or it suggested they were an item. I don't know if either he or she are committed, but I will say it must be incredible hard to keep a hold of a girl with that kind of fame unless you're some kind of prince.
In any case, she's hot as fuck just by her instagram pics alone. The fact she thoroughly enjoys chocolate on camera meets my approval and though she's an amateur, is still worthy of mentioning. No telling if she will ever go pro or just flame out and abandon all this, but she seems to be having fun.
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