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Posted - Jun 11 2016 : 5:44PM
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I knew they were a shady company, but I never knew they were this shady.
Thoughts?

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Posted - Jun 11 2016 : 6:11PM
I have no idea what the truth is and am in no position to make anything remotely resembling an informed conclusion.
If the defendants are guilty, I hope the court rules against them. If they're not guilty, I hope that they're not ordered to pay up unjustly.

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Posted - Jun 13 2016 : 5:26PM
Been wondering when someone would sue them. Their lies are real as multiple people have confirmed how they lie to women. The site just gives off an illegal feel to me. Wouldn't be surprised if one day it just disappeared.
 
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Posted - Jun 14 2016 : 3:16AM
These charges jive with what they've bragged about online. I suspect they are fucked and deserve it.

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Any updates in this case?
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Any news on the trial ?

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Posted - Dec 21 2016 : 4:25PM
GirlsDoPorn might be in some deep shit right now. 24 GDP performers have now joined the lawsuit (info is available in the public domain):
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Posted - Dec 21 2016 : 4:29PM
oh dear, what did they do exactly??
 
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Posted - Dec 21 2016 : 4:30PM
That's a lot of women...
 
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Posted - Dec 21 2016 : 4:31PM
^^ There is an article linked at thew top with details.
 
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Posted - Jan 7 2017 : 2:56PM
Another article on it:
MikeSilva95
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Posted - Jan 7 2017 : 6:08PM
Do you have a link to the Imaged Case?

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Posted - Feb 1 2017 : 4:29PM
disturbing article. only thing that bothers me is, in the videos you never really see any real discomfort like in other websites (facialabuse, maxhardcore or any other "hardcore" site for that matter) plus, if its all based on lies - how come some girls are seen more than once?
i guess its not judgable from the outside.
 
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Posted - Feb 1 2017 : 7:34PM
^ I'll "judge" it from the "outside."
I'll bet you that there are (gasp) amateur/fucked-on-video-once-or-twice girls who are later on sorry that they ever did it.
Especially when they encounter the porn stigma that screws with their normal lives/family/boyfriends/employment -- that they really never thought about -- later on.
Given that there is an actual GirlsDoPorn site, I find it next to impossible to believe the girls had no idea what they were getting into
These girls weren't going on dates.
The studio paid for hotel rooms, paid for crew, paid for the male performers to be there and, in many cases, paid for travel expenses.
So, the guys got upset with some girls who might have gotten nervous and started to flake on them?
You mean the girls were taken by surprise that the studio wasn't going to pay them anyway if they didn't fulfill their contract and actually perform?
Oh, the horror...
I'd love to see the actual GDP contract, that you can see every girl signing in the behind-the-scenes episodes (which I'm certain they do for every shoot, whether it gets released as a BTS or not), and judge for myself how onerous the terms are.
I'm not impressed by any of this (so far).

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Posted - Feb 1 2017 : 8:19PM
Now I understand why they have been the most active producer filing DMCA take down requests.
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Posted - Feb 1 2017 : 8:20PM
i tend to agree to what you say. but since its not only one but by now many girls, this is maybe not such a simple and rational matter. and even if they signed a contract - if they did so under pressured circumstances its different.
also there are literally hundreds of sites on the web and so far i've not read a lot about lawsuits being filed against any other site (yet this might be only due to gdp's popularity).
furthermore, its easy to say "they know what they got into" for us or any other rational and somewhat experienced adult, but the girls in mention are 18, 19 and still in or just out of high school.
so i do think its not to be shaken off lightly, even if i agree with you that it does have an opportunistic feel to it.

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Posted - Feb 2 2017 : 2:03PM
I like this line from the article in the OP--
And this whole business very likely will be an episode of that show next season.
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Posted - Jun 5 2017 : 11:28AM
Is there a trial date yet ? This case seems to be going slowly ?

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Posted - Jul 18 2018 : 11:19AM
Any news on that trial? Is it happening ?
 
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Posted - Jul 18 2018 : 4:19PM
^ Looks like there are a lot of motions being heard this month, with some discovery hearings coming up through end of July and beginning of August. Then more motions etc. Civil jury trial is currently set to start March 8 2019.
 
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Posted - Feb 16 2019 : 10:36PM
This was posted in another thread:
This article has a lot more details than were available previously, including interviews with girls who shot for them, and attorneys from both sides.

Edited by - killbillvol69 on 2/16/2019 10:51:47 PM


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Posted - Feb 16 2019 : 10:59PM
^ On the news report did I just hear a girl say "I just turned 17"?

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Posted - Feb 17 2019 : 5:10AM
^

It looks like in some instances, they started recruiting girls while they were 17 and then flew them out within days of turning 18.

Honestly, you should always be wary of any site that has the huge percentage of one and dones that GirlsDoPorn did, since the best way to convince that many women who aren't interested in shooting mainstream porn to shoot for you is to lie to them.


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Posted - Feb 17 2019 : 8:55AM
I see two things hear.
1 The girls didn't get the money they signed for, which equals a legitimate suit
2 They are upset because their friends and families are assholes who harassed them, not a legit claim

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Posted - Feb 17 2019 : 9:17AM
^

This is no different than the main actresses within the industry who have already been shunned by their friends or families from their personal life. The big difference is that the girls from "GirlsDoPorn" are super young (not mentally mature yet) and weren't meant to do porn at all so they can't handle the pressure.

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Posted - Feb 17 2019 : 9:47AM
I have to say that they have a lot of beautiful girls on theire site...some of them even became regular pornstars...

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Posted - Feb 17 2019 : 11:54AM
^^^

The girls were also lied to in order to get them to sign, which is problematic to the point where it can be a suit, and were plied with alcohol and drugs before the shoots, which is definitely grounds for a suit if you can reasonably prove it.


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Posted - Feb 17 2019 : 2:44PM
^^
What's your point in feeling compelled to make that statement? Harvey Weinstein helped produce some great films and helped make household names out of several actors and actresses...

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As I see it, you're either being disingenuous or you miss the second point.
The plaintiffs claim they were told the content would not be released in the US (on physical media) or published online. If the contract/model release makes a specific reference to this condition and the plaintiffs' agreement to sign it was based on it being upheld by GDP, the plaintiffs do have a legitimate claim for breach of contract. The isolation and harassment by the plaintiffs' friends, families and acquaintances are the effects of the alleged violation of the agreement they made with GDP, not the basis of the suit.

Edited by - AngryPirate on 2/17/2019 2:49:29 PM


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Posted - Feb 17 2019 : 4:20PM
^

Given the part about them rushing the models through the contract signing, I doubt that that language was in there, and the lawyer is probably correct in saying the contract said they could release the footage wherever they want.

Also, the article contains a response to Goldstein's much earlier post, where he talks about how the girls should have known what they were doing because of the existence of the GDP site. The article basically says that they kept the name of the site as far away from the production side of the equation as possible, so the women would have never heard of GDP at any point while they were shooting. They knew they were shooting a sex scene, but they were repeatedly told that it was being sold to private collections, only for that not to be the case.


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Posted - Feb 17 2019 : 4:49PM
^ I'm sure that's possible or even likely. It'll be interesting to see what was or wasn't written in the contracts.

I disagree with the comment that they're claiming action against GDP for the family, friend and acquaintance issues.


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Posted - Feb 18 2019 : 8:49AM
I definitely find it hard to watch their later scenes. They may have one or two girls who seem legitimately interested in a porn career, like Naomi Blue, but most of the time the girls seem almost shell-shocked and seem keen to get it over with as quickly as possible. I often wonder how they get these impossibly gorgeous women who seem intelligent to film these scenes.

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Posted - Feb 19 2019 : 6:18AM
Even if they win the case or not, they've permanently damaged GDP's brand. Did you read the article? The owner of GDP declared bankruptcy a few weeks ago.
 
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Posted - Feb 19 2019 : 9:26AM
^
you think?

There are people out there who seek exactly so women being harmed , so yes regular people would shun those guys, but mano other just get notice of another source of unhappy women in a scene


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Posted - Feb 28 2019 : 10:27AM
I've seen many of their scenes, and I never once got the feeling the girls were being exploited. Many of them came back multiple times. One girl had her mother there, and many girls had friends with them. The interviews before the scenes are rather long, and like I said I have never gotten the impression anyone was being coerced or manipulated. I'm sure there may be some questionable practices, but if it was that bad, why would there be girls coming back multiple times?

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Posted - Feb 28 2019 : 10:34AM
^

First of all, because sometimes they do recruit women legitimately interested in porn.

Second of all, because sometimes those "comeback" scenes are all shot during the course of 1 trip.

Third of all, because of some of the women are, in fact, good liars/actors.


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Posted - Feb 28 2019 : 10:50AM
Also, at some point, the guy interviewing the girls changed, so maybe the alleged incidents came earlier on. They used to show the girls saying their names on camera, but they stopped that. Maybe the guy who used to run it was showing their names when he said he wouldn't or something. Just seems like a weird change.

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Posted - Feb 28 2019 : 10:55AM
The ones I remember coming back where definitely not the same trip. One girl had like 4 or 5 scenes and had different hair color and style. As to your last point, if the girls are "good liars/actors", how do you know which ones are lying about the stuff in front of the camera, or the accusations. Look, I am not denying that there are plenty of scumbags in the porn game, and I have been very skeptical about the so-called "audition" type sites. This one though never gave me any cause for concern. The girls seem very aware of what they are doing and not at all under duress.

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Posted - Mar 1 2019 : 1:43AM
^

Some of them are on the same trip, but, like I said, just because they lie to some of the performers to get them there doesn't mean that they don't also occasionally find women through their searches that are actually interested in doing porn without having to be lied to.

And for as much as any site may "seem" to be on the up and up, my general litmus test for any "audition" or "first time" site in terms of how well they treat their performers isn't about how the scenes appear on camera, it's how many of them go on to do scenes for other companies, given the site's proximity to natural porn locations (LA/LV/Miami in the US). The more that go on from that experience to do more professional shoots, the more likely that their first professional shoots went well. So sites like GirlsDoPorn (in San Diego) and BackroomCastingCouch (IIRC in Arizona) I was generally wary of (and in both cases have been proven right), whereas sites like FTVGirls or even ExploitedCollegeGirls (I think both of those are also shot in Arizona) have a much better track record for that sort of thing, to the point where professional talent agencies are willing to send their performers there for their first shoots.

Edit: I know this is a late edit, but reading this over and I wanted to say something else. In regards to "if they're good liars, how do we not know that they're lying now". If it's one person, I will generally leave open the possibility that the person isn't telling the truth. But in situations where there's multiple people telling basically the same story and they don't really know each other to corroborate on a story, it gets harder and harder to believe that all of them are coincidentally telling the same lie.

Edited by - whatsatelephonebill on 3/2/2019 9:29:20 PM


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Posted - Mar 6 2019 : 11:34AM
Ok, but what are they accusations? From what I saw, it was that they were told it was only for foreign markets. I know most teenagers are not all that sophisticated yet, but I think they know in today's world nothing is contained to one country or area of the world. If you are willing to do porn for Australia, you have to be pretty naive to think it will stay there. Another was that they were rushed through the contract. Really? I've signed a lot of things in my life and have read carefully almost none. Again, if you are doing porn, and you are not a lawyer, they could read that for an hour and probably not be any wiser. If you are a porn producer and take advantage of gullible girls, that's disgusting, but probably not illegal. I've heard no allegations of abuse, making them do things they didn't want to, etc. There are plenty of sites and scenes where it's clear the girls are not enjoying it and likely being coerced into things they don't want to do. Show me one such scene from GDP and I will withdraw my skepticism.

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Posted - Mar 7 2019 : 5:45AM
The accusations are all in the press article and there has been a lot of traction recently. Looking forward to the trial to see the truth being established.

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Posted - Mar 7 2019 : 8:13PM
Civil Jury Trial begins tomorrow. The official charge is fraud, each girl is seeking $1 million+ in damages.

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Posted - Mar 7 2019 : 9:21PM
^^^

Basically, I think the idea is that the lies, the coercion, and the other stuff are bad enough that the contracts the models signed were basically not valid, which can happen as it's not really legal to flat out lie to someone that much to get them to sign a contract they wouldn't sign otherwise.


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Posted - Mar 8 2019 : 3:31PM
I will say a couple things that have always bothered me about that site is that they don't use name for any of the girls and the faces of the guys involved are always blocked. I don't know a valid reason for either of those things.

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Posted - Mar 8 2019 : 4:40PM
^ Yeah, when searching for GirlsDoPorn models you have to go by E###. There's over 500 episodes or scenes since the site has been around.

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Posted - Mar 11 2019 : 9:00AM
there are two things on the names front.

1) Saves them having to bother making up stage names
2) Supposedly in early days was to 'prevent piracy' as no names made it harder to search for scenes....

 
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Posted - Mar 16 2019 : 5:56PM
^
Also with no names their stars will still seem amateurs even when and if they go fully into porn
So they want reparation for having their lifes ruined and this is proof it's a fraud?

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Posted - Mar 16 2019 : 10:38PM
Emily Willis was in at least 2 videos for them. Maybe someone should ask her if she was lied to and/or coerced.

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Posted - Mar 17 2019 : 8:12AM
What a load of BS-they should get what the scene was due to pay them & their legal costs paid. 1 million in damages for what? Nobody can be that stupid to think in this day & age that what they are filming is for the private viewing of the person filming it, of course it is going to be released. Do these women even read what they are signing?

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Posted - Mar 17 2019 : 11:33AM
^ It's curious how you denounce people as stupid yet you behave naively in thinking a lawsuit is just about like-for-like financial remuneration. Lawsuits often cite compensation for emotional distress or projected loss of income due to damaged reputation in order to add zeroes the damages sought. As absurd as you appear to think seeking $1 million in damages is, if you are allowed to sue for more than you would be satisfied with, why not take advantage? Are you privy to the contract to say the plaintiffs agreed for the content to be released on the internet and/or on physical media in the US?
 
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Posted - Mar 17 2019 : 5:02PM
^^
The point of a lie is that the other side believes that however naive is he/she ,
I can't sell you fake gold at a lower price and then say "of course it wasn't actual gold, nobody would believe it was real at that price" ,it's called scam.


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Posted - Mar 18 2019 : 2:07AM
And what emotional distress is that exactly? They wanted to make porn for financial remuneration-if he reneged on that then they deserve their fee & all legal costs involved with pursuing him for said amount. Seriously this isn't the 1980's or early 1990's-when UK glamour models were sucking & ducking on camera with no internet & hardcore was illegal to purchase here, then getting pissed when R18 became a thing in the late 1990's & the internet took off & everything they had done was now suddenly exposed to the world. These women knew full well this guy wasn't going to agree to pay them huge money & either sit on the content or only release it overseas-which cannot possibly work with the internet as we all know. The lawsuit for damages/costs is legit, the million dollar tag is spurious & reeks of jumping on the metoo/feminist bandwagon. Why the hell should these women get a million bucks for a scene in effect when legit porn actresses get 5 grand per scene tops doing a lot more sexual acts?
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