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America's racial double standard: White celebs are excused, but black stars are "thugs"
White stars escape the judgment Richard Sherman received -- even if, like Justin Bieber, they get arrested
by Beanie Barnes at Salon.com
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A mug shot of Richard Sherman could not be found. He has never been arrested.

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Posted - Jan 24 2014 : 1:48PM
I just thought that Sherman sounded exactly like all the pro wrestler trash talk, back to when I was watching Ray Stevens and Pat Patterson and Haystack Calhoun in the 60's. The referee would somehow "not see" the brass knuckles that the "bad guy" pulled out of his shorts and used, and even the announcer (interviewing the loser) would be yelling at the screen that he was, "going to take this to the commissioner myself!"
Yeah. Just like pro wrestling.

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Posted - Jan 24 2014 : 1:49PM
And, yes, "thug" is a dog whistle.
 
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Posted - Jan 28 2014 : 3:37AM
I talked about this subject at length in the T****** M***** and G***** Z********* thread
In this part you see, where I had an interchange with Rosco Fuji vis-a-vis Jay-Z the "thug rapper" who, incidentally, on the Grammys the other night, said
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^Of course, the liberal media failed to cover the backstage incident where he shanked Ringo Starr.
*I don't mention their names, because, just mentioning either of those names sparks enough shit to get threads shut down immediately
Edited by - Smiler Grogan on 1/28/2014 3:41:00 AM
 
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Posted - Jan 28 2014 : 3:46AM
I have always found it interesting that in hockey, where the players are 99% white, and baseball, where 8% of players are Black, tolerate fighting on the field, whereas in the NBA and NFL, fighting is penalized with the harshest of penalties. Players on NBA sidelines can't even leave the bench to help break up a fight or they'll be slammed.
It makes one think, what do the commissioners of the NBA and NFL feel the perception of fighting is among their audiences, as opposed to the commissioners of the NHL and MLB???
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Posted - Jan 28 2014 : 9:44AM
Richard Sherman was improperly identified as a thug. Was that term used because of the color of his skin? Possibly? His actions after the NFC Championship would be better described as selfish(took the focus off his team's accomplishment) and an example of poor sportsmanship. Also, violent, white hockey players are often described as thugs and goons. Those terms are used by the opposing team and their fans. If he plays for your team, he's an enforcer.

Edited by - aclayfan on 1/28/2014 9:45:57 AM


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Well America is still suffering from its history. Change of mentality takes time.

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Um, you're aware that hockey players can't even leave the bench to help break up a fight, not even in the fourth quarter? There is a reason it almost never happens (10 games), and why goons get any ice time at all.
A better example was treatment by the media of pictures after hurricane Katrina. The white people were getting supplies; the black people were looting.

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Posted - Jan 28 2014 : 9:08PM
Oh, Lord. That reminds me (eyeroll) of my mother-in-law.
My husband and I sat transfixed for three days by media coverage of Katrina, the absolute craziness of the U.S govt not managing to deliver even a single forklift palette of bottled water, thousands of people trapped in the SuperDome without food, running water, flushing toilets, electricity, or anything else. Their first ventures out in waist deep water full of all kinds of sludge, waste, and overflow from busted fuel tanks and god-knows-what. Their clothes and shoes soaked in all that, to forage for supplies, with complaints from some commentators that they were stealing (dry) shoes from Walmart, and comments by Bush that they wouldn't allow looters. People literally begging news crews to take their baby with them, because they had no formula and were sure the baby would die. Overflowing trash cans, and storm debris everywhere.
My mother-in-law had only one comment when we spoke to her on the phone a coupla days later.
"Those people are so sloppy, don't they know how to use a trash can?
We instantly changed the subject. Luckily, you can't throttle someone over the phone.
Edited by - Pieps on 1/28/2014 10:54:56 PM
 
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Yeah, but what I meant was, in the NBA any type of physical altercation is immediate suspension and fines. In hockey, fighting is not only called tradition,

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I seem to recall the term "foreign object" being used by the announcers. Pat Patterson, when he was a heel, and wrestling in a mask, would slip something suspiciously similar in size to a couple of poker chips glued together, or the disk you put on the record player to play 45's, between his mask and forehead and head-butt the other guy, who would magically be rendered unconscious while Pat would be wholly unaffected. And the announcer would be going "he used a foreign object! He used a foreign object under his mask!"
Back on topic:
Bieber: deport
Sherman: delouse
doctor who writes Adderall scrips for Sherman: delicense

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Posted - Jan 29 2014 : 9:55PM
Um, Richard Sherman has a history of berating people and trash-talking (just ). He was not just caught in the passion of the moment. Whether that makes him a "thug" (and I think "street thug" is actually the dog whistle, Smiler) or not is up to interpretation. I'll just say he's one of the best corners to ever play the game and should let that speak for itself.
Justin Beiber's too much of an entitled little shit to be thug, but I'm loving the talk of deporting the little twerp (who, for all I know, could beat me up).
And I'll throw one more name into the mix. Rep. Michael Grimm (R, Staten Island) is a straight-up thug, straight up out of a Scorsese movie.

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Posted - Jan 30 2014 : 12:04AM
Yeah, I was never sure what it was. I thought about trying to figure out what it was, but I thought 'brass knuckles' caught the general idea.
Man, that happened over and over again, and somehow the ref never saw it, to our great delight.

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Posted - Jan 31 2014 : 9:02PM
I live in Seattle and everyone here loves Richard Sherman, and I like him too. That said, my personal view is that his outburst was just kind of bizarre and weird and seemed almost like something designed to draw attention to himself and to create controversy. But, whatever, it doesn't really matter.
I also think that "Thug" applied to a black athlete with lengthy dreadlocks that plays a brutal contact sport is in fact a code word.
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Posted - Jan 31 2014 : 10:57PM
Comparatively, Rob Ford is just an entertaining clown, and Justin Bieber is just a child in need of better mothering.
There's been slim and timid application of the word thug to Rep. Michael Grimm, pretty much solely to address the Sherman 'thug' issue.

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I think it goes both ways.
You have the "angry white man" crowd who will try to find the littlest dirt on a minority and will label him as the scum of the Earth.
Then you also have the so-called "Civil Rights" activists, like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, who will try to exaggerate the smallest bullshit and turn it into a race issue.
Personally, I think both of those parties need to STFU and get a life. Stop making a big deal outta nothing.
And by posting this I'm sure there are people out there who will hate on me because I'm now one of those complainers who complain about other people's complaints, so I'm just gonna STFU now.
 
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Now yes, I've often heard that Jackson is a Diva and was late for meetings, yadda yadda yadda. Yet, Terrell Owens (who played on the Eagles), Chad Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson....they were at least as bad as Jackson, and they were tolerated until their abilities had noticeably diminished.

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Friends -
I am black, a native Philadelphian, and a lifelong Eagles fan. With that pedigree, and with my own understanding of the situations discussed in the article presented above, I will say that the article presents one perspective on DeSean Jackson's release by the Eagles.
There are other perspectives.
Caring, informed, observant, and rational people who love the Eagles, share them.
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Don't worry. His mom nurtures him on Twitter.

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^^^ After Aaron Hernandez teams are going to be proactive in situations like this. I can't imagine they would cut a player as productive as Jackson if they didn't have sincere concerns.
And the comparisons to Riley Cooper are way off.
 
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^
And yet, Riley Cooper is the one who made threats of violence against someone -- based solely on race.
And yes, he apologized to teammates, It-was-a-moment-of-frustration-blah-blah-blah, but yet I can't help thinking, what if he was black and said, "I will fuck up every cracker here"
Meanwhile DeSean Jackson (with his awesome Ice-Cube style scowl) has threatened no one. And again, the Eagles were previously so uncomfortable with him, they gave him a $51M contract.

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Report didn't sink DeSean; His exit was sealed
by Geoff Mosher at CSNPhilly.com

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^^
Well if that's Chip Kelly's feelings and the Luries are OK with it, then what can ya do? I hope for his sake he made the right decision because he now owns it.
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On the subject of these "Open Carry" protests....
I wonder what would happen if a bunch of Black Men walked into a Target or Walmart carrying loading shotguns??
 
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I do not recall ever hearing criticism of Bill Clinton or GW Bush for slipping their "g"s....
 
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Shit, I was speaking rhetorically!

A man who was carrying an air rifle that he may have been planning to purchase in an Ohio Wal-Mart told the police officers that fatally shot him that the gun was “not real,” according to a family member.
John Crawford was shot by police Tuesday evening at a Beavercreek store. The Ohio attorney general’s office announced Thursday that he was merely carrying a brand of air rifle that Wal-Mart sells. Another shopper, 37-year-old Angela Williams, collapsed and died as she scrambled to get away after police fired at Crawford.
The shooting occurred after police responded to 911 calls about a man carrying a rifle. In one of those calls, which was released by police, a Wal-Mart shopper told emergency dispatchers that it looked like the man — later identified as Crawford — was trying to load the rifle and that he had pointed it at two children, WHIO reported.


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Thug is the new nigger ( more socially appropriate)
 
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Cliven Bundy's Militia: "Freedom Riders"
Protesters in Ferguson: "Lynch Mob"
 
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Soooo...we no longer have freedom of religion in Louisiana???
 
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OK, so people like Sean Hannity are repeatedly saying: "Look, just obey the police officer, do what they say, and nobody gets hurt." Right?
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OK, maybe I'm a little bit biased here...and maybe just a tad influenced by all the going ons in NY, LA and Ferguson...
....but I feel very comfortable saying that there is NO FUCKING WAY a Black Guy would have lasted 40 minutes out there with police. NO F*CKING WAY.
And I'm not even saying the cops did anything wrong in this case, because they didn't. (Well except maybe for the not-locking-him-up and the giving-him-back-his-weapon thing. A few months from now when he declares himself a and starts blowing away police officers, they may regret that.) Drunks are an occupational hazard for police and they should be able to make discernations on the threat level. Once the number of officers outnumbered the perpetrator the situation was under a certain measure of control.
I'm just sayin....40 MINUTES?? AND THEY GAVE HIM THE GUN BACK???
 
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I would be reluctant to touch the gun of a crazy person (or any guy with a gun). Probably has cum on it.
 
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August 2nd:
SAN DIEGO - A 45-year-old man was receiving hospital care Thursday for a bullet wound he suffered in a police shooting that occurred as he allegedly waved a pistol around at people in Mission Bay Park.
Lance Tamayo of San Diego called police from the 2800 block of North Mission Bay Drive shortly after 11 a.m. Wednesday and told dispatchers he intended to shoot himself, SDPD Sgt. Manuel Del Toro said.
Patrol personnel arrived to find Tamayo sitting in his car in a parking area near De Anza Cove. They contacted him by phone and spoke with him for about 15 minutes before he agreed to surrender. He got out of the vehicle, but soon returned to it and retrieved a loaded 9mm pistol, the sergeant said.
Tamayo then "pointed his gun recklessly at various people in the park," at a police helicopter circling overhead and at the nearby officers, prompting one of them to shoot him in the abdomen, Del Toro alleged.

The suspect fell to the ground, but his gun remained within reach and he continued failing to comply with the officers' commands, Del Toro said. Finally, the personnel were able to subdue him with non-lethal rounds and take him into custody.
Tamayo remained hospitalized Thursday afternoon in critical but stable condition, Del Toro said.
The name of the nine-year SDPD veteran who shot the suspect has not been publicly disclosed.
[link inactive:404 - Page not found]Tamyo may have had financial troubles. Shocker!
 
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You could argue that THAT is a double standard, sure.
But two corollaries:
1) The Underdog Rule: When someone says "Black Pride" or "Gay Pride" it is generally understood it's a means of establishing a presence in a land where you are a minority.
What need is there for a "Straight Pride Parade" or a "White People's" cable channel? It's ridiculous. It's generally used for the White, Protestant Male who wants to feel victimized or disenfranchised because Rush Limbaugh tells him he has the right to be.
2) We have The Scot-Irish Society of the USA, Swedish-American museums, The Irish-American bars, Italian-American community centers, The Center for American Jewish history...etc etc. Trust me, there's no lack of representation for the recognition of Caucasians.
In fact think about how low on the totem-pole heritage is for Blacks. Everybody else gets to hyphenate what country they originate from. There's no designate of "European-American" they say what country in Europe they're from. Blacks get/gave themselves "African-American" because, well, let's be honest, as far as everyone's concerned it's all just one big mass of dark-skinned people living in the jungle, and they're all the same even though there's 54 different countries and a multitude of languages and religions.
 
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Now in the pic, he's got a bloody cut above his nose, but otherwise, Mr. Frein, accused cop-killer, remains un-shot as of this time.

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Yeah, but -- mitigating factor -- he wasn't packing cigarillos.
 
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Jesse Jackson pushed for the term African-American.
 
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^ I stated that we gave ourselves that misnomer. An example of our miseducation/misdirection/lack of knowledge of history.
Of course, I do have to admit, that, in the 21st century, it certainly sounds better than "black" which was an improvement over "negro" which was an improvement over... well you get the point.
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Of whites are called whites why is it offensive if blacks are called blacks

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It's not.
Moving on...
[link inactive:404 - Page not found]Captured white cop killer (after 48 day manhunt that cost about $7 million) sports a boo-boo on his nose. His sister is complaining about it. She says of the plan to request the death penalty:

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How many of those cops he killed were killer cops? Even if he was exclusively a killer cop killer, I'd still vote for execution. Prison labor takes jobs from our illegal immigrants.
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^ ha ha
 
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BREAKING: Suspected "Lone Wolf" Gunman Bradley Stone Has Been Cornered by Police in a Shack In the Bucks County Countryside!!!
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"Alright men, listen up! We're going to go on loudspeaker and demand that Stone surrender and come out with his hands up!! If he doesn't, then we have no choice...we're going to wait 30 minutes and then demand that he surrender again. Got it?? Time is on our side -- a local diner is cooking up some ribs and chicken wings and we're gonna put them outside the door and wait for him to take the bait. The guys been on the run for so long, we're almost definite he hasn't eaten in a while, so a nice home-cooked meal should prove impossible to resist. But if that doesn't work? THEN FUCK IT. Get the speakers, get the audio system and crank up the Opera. Maybe something with Beverly Sills or Kiri Te Kanawa. We may even -- God help us -- have to resort to Yoko Ono. But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.
The important thing to remember here is that we're not going to solve anything here today with guns, alright? The violence he's committed is not going to be ameliorated in any way by us committing
more violence. Alright? Remember what you learned in your Aristotelian Logic classes, OK??

 
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^That's Ryan Giroux, a white skinhead

Wow! This guy is a total loose cannon! According to records, he's been in and out of jail for years ! His most recent bid was six years on aggie assault!! There's only one way this can end for certain -- with him backed into a corner in a deadly shootout with a brigade of SWAT personnel ready to bring him down with an Iraq-level arsenal!!!

Oh. Well. OK then.
Meanwhile here's UVA student Martese Johnson:
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Goodness sake, speaking as a Black guy, my first instinct at looking at this picture is that he's a goody-two shoes who could get his ass kicked by Steve Urkel.
Sadly, though, there was, in fact, an ass-kicking. Not by Jaleel White, but by a bunch of, um, not cops, but um, "Alcoholic Beverage Control Officers" who responded to a bar where Mr. Johnson was allegedly engaged in the despicable act of trying to get in with a fake id. The outcome?
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Wow. I mean, just WOW.
 
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^And let me continue by noting this: Giroux had a few cuts and bruises of his own at the time he was booked. But again, you might expect a little scuffle with a white supremacist who's already shot a bunch of people. But I think a little more restraint might be called for by agents (again, they were NOT cops) dealing with unruly college students.
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Since someone else has already unscrewed the cap on this bucket of worms, exactly when does the NAACP finally decide to update their name?
 
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^
You are not the only one who sees how weird that is, trust me.
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