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British Prime Minister Theresa May asked Parliament earlier this week to give her a little more time to renegotiate part of her unpopular Brexit deal with the European Union.

Parliament just responded with a resounding “nope,” voting down the motion 303 to 258, and leaving the Brexit impasse as intractable as ever.

May’s defeat was mostly symbolic, and doesn’t change anything practically. But her loss was still remarkable — and yet, somehow, not all that surprising given the complete and utter shambles that the Brexit debate is in.

Most critically for the prime minister, the vote undercuts her pitch to the European Union that if it offers concessions on the Brexit deal — specifically, renegotiating the so-called “Irish backstop” — she’ll finally be able to rally enough support in Parliament to get a Brexit agreement passed.

But the defeat of her government’s motion — led by pro-Brexit members of her own Conservative Party, no less — made it clear that May is still struggling to get her party to back a Brexit deal and likely won’t be able to even if the EU were to offer some concessions.

May’s government lost this vote on Thursday because the hardcore Brexiteers — those who really want to abandon the EU and all of its rules — in her party abstained from voting.

They’re angry with May because, they argued, her motion potentially rules out a no-deal Brexit and weakens the UK’s negotiating power when it comes to the Irish backstop.

The Irish backstop is an insurance policy to prevent border checks between Northern Ireland (which is part of the UK) and the Republic of Ireland (which is an independent country that’s also an EU member state) if the UK and EU can’t agree on the terms of a future trade relationship after Brexit.


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^ Put simply. More Can Kicking
 
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May hoped the changes would be enough to overturn the 230-vote margin of defeat for the deal in January.

But her hopes were dashed when Attorney General Geoffrey Cox said the changes "reduce the risk" Britain could be trapped inside EU regulations -- but do not eliminate it. The two-page opinion said the U.K. could still not extract itself from the terms of the divorce deal unilaterally, a key demand of pro-Brexit British politicians.
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So, they want a deal that they don't have to abide by? Good luck with that.

 
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"So you advocated Brexit, championed Brexit, celebrated Brexit, but you didn't have a plan for getting out?"

 
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The British government is planning to push the start button on its no-deal Brexit emergency plan as early as Monday March 25, newspapers reported on Wednesday.

Code-named Operation Yellowhammer after a small English bird, the “worst case scenario” plan would begin a “command and control” system to prevent possible food, fuel and cash shortages if the UK crashes out of the European Union without an agreement.

According to some newspaper reports the government could even introduce martial law to prevent civil unrest.

European Union President Donald Tusk said on Wednesday the bloc would agree to Prime Minister Theresa May’s request to delay Brexit for a few months – until June 30 – but only if she could get the agreement she reached with the European Union through parliament.

After failing to do that twice, the prospect of Britain crashing out of the EU without a trade deal looks likely.

May was expected to meet EU leaders on Thursday in Brussels to discuss an exit delay after blaming MPs in the House of Commons for the political crisis.


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Posted - Mar 21 2019 : 4:06AM
Corbyn says in the House of Commons that he will talk to allcomers in an attempt in find some sort of agreement on the way forward. Fair enough.

Wednesday night a meeting is arranged. Fair enough.

Chuka Umunna (The Independence Group) arrives and Corbyn walks out. Strange

Corbyn was once happy to talk to Hammas, the IRA, but for some reason cannot bring himself to talk to a former member of the Labour Party?.

Another example of the inability to agree between politicians to solve this crisis. Can anyone wonder why the British people are so frustrated?.


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Posted - Mar 21 2019 : 12:48PM
So here's the situation as it apears to be;

UK Govt spent 18 months negotiating a treaty that they and the EU agreed to. The UK would leave the EU on March 29th with this transitional deal. Parliament decided it hated the deal and voted it down; twice.

The EU are considering the UK's request for an extension of time for...... what exactly? The deal can't go through Parliament because a) MP's won't accept it and b) the Speaker has ruled it can't go back to Parliament in the same, or substantially the same fomat. So the extension might a) allow the PM to try and get her deal through on a 3rd vote but she can't because of a) and b) above; or b) find another deal which MPs will agree on. But that won't solve things because there IS no deal that a majority of MPs would vote for, and in any case the EU have said it will only accept the deal that Parliament keeps voting down.

The extension requested is a short one because elections to the European Parliament are due in May and how stupid would it be to hold elections in the UK, which we would have to by law if we haven't left by then, when the UK is supposed to be coming out of the EU - Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a monumental fuck up.

Luckily I have the solution. The UK and EU agree to an extension of time until the end of the fucking millenium. (yes, I voted to remain).

 
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UK PM May asks EU to delay Brexit until June 30th. (Source: CBC)
 
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EU has granted a delay up to May 22nd with some conditions. (Source: CBC)
 
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Prime Minister May could be ousted by the end of next week

just when you thought it could not get more complicated.......


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There seem to be more MPs taking the approach of "Mrs May, provided you stand down as Tory leader immediately following our departure from the EU, we will support your deal." Jacob Rees-Mogg is one. It may just go through, but there is still the obstacle that the Speaker put in the way i.e. no further vote on the same deal.

 
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Excerpts from the article:

Theresa May's deal

Theresa May's deal -- otherwise known as the Withdrawal Agreement -- was agreed with the EU last November. Its aim, broadly, was to allow the UK to formally leave on a set date (originally March 29), while abiding by EU rules for a further 21-month "implementation period".

Norway Plus, or Common Market 2.0

Norway Plus -- or Common Market 2.0, as some are now calling it -- is a very soft Brexit, in which the UK formally leaves the EU but remains very closely aligned to it. The "plus" part of this plan would be a customs arrangement between the UK and the EU that avoids a hard border on the island of Ireland.

Permanent customs union

A customs union is essentially a free-trade agreement between a number of countries who agree to share common external tariffs. That means no customs checks at borders. But because the EU is one large trading bloc, it also has a unified external trading policy, which EU member states can influence, but is ultimately run out of Brussels.

No deal

Brexit may not mean Brexit, but no deal really does mean no deal. The UK would leave the EU on April 12 and become a third-party nation. It would trade with the world on terms set by the World Trade Organization and would fall out of all EU institutions. This would affect everything from medical supplies to air travel.

Canada-style free trade agreement

Canada and the EU endured excruciating negotiations over seven years before they agreed on the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA).

CETA eliminates 98% of tariffs between Europe and Canada on certain goods and offers has access to much of the EU services market. The agreement is essentially a looser trading arrangement which removes many barriers between Europe and Canada. However, because Canada is not a member of the Customs Union or Single Market, customs checks still exist.

Revoke Article 50

At the time of writing, it's unclear if the option of a holding second referendum will be discussed on Wednesday. Supporters of another public vote say that it's not a Brexit outcome, but a matter of process, and should be debated separately on its own merit.

However, in the eyes of many, a second referendum is the only way the UK could credibly revoke Article 50, the process of leaving the EU, and remain in the bloc on its current terms.

A big show of support for revoking Article 50 would be helpful for advocates of a second referendum. Whether they will get it or not is another issue entirely.


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Posted - Mar 28 2019 : 6:24AM
^ In the event, none of these propositions gained a majority. However, more MP's, including Boris Johnson, are saying they will reluctantly vote for May' deal just o get the UK out of the EU


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I think Sir Oliver Letwin had a great idea to put all the options to the vote. Sadly there are too many options floating around at the moment and none of them commanded a majority in the voting.
 
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If anyone think the UK are in a crisis in 2019 over Brexit. I wonder what it was like in 1940.
 
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Excerpts from the article:

The federal government is warning Canadians in the U.K. to “exercise a high degree of caution” as Brexit protests intensify in London after a third “no deal” vote.

Global Affairs Canada upped the threat level Friday morning due to the “threat of terrorism,” according to its website.

“Acts of violence could occur as well as confrontations between demonstrators and security forces,” the agency wrote on Twitter. “Avoid areas where demonstrations are taking place and nearby underground stations.”

 
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A British lawmaker says the U.K. may have to try a government of national unity if Prime Minister Theresa May cannot break the impasse over the country's withdrawal from the European Union.

Former Education Secretary Nicky Morgan's comments came a day after Parliament rejected May's divorce deal for a third time, rebuffing the prime minister's plea to "put aside self and party."

The House of Commons will vote Monday on a variety of alternatives in an attempt to find an idea that can command a majority, but May's government is considering a fourth vote on her deal.

 
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Fourth Times Gotta Be the Charm!
 
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After Brexit passed, there was a wave of joy throughout populist/Right Wing parties across Europe as they hoped that more countries would catch "Brexit Fever"

Nope.

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Just three years ago, in country after European country, populist politicians were drawing up plans to follow Britain out the door. The French nationalist party leader spoke of a Frexit. The Dutch far-right leader wanted a vote on Nexit. Some politicians predicted a secessionist contagion. Might there be a Swexit? A Czech-out? An Italeave?

“Now it’s our turn,” the leader of Italy’s ascendant far right, Matteo Salvini, said at the time about exiting the European Union.
But the 2016 Brexit vote has spawned no copycats. Nor did it lead to the crackup of the E.U. Even the most ardent Brussels-bashing politicians have concluded it is better to stick with the bloc than endure a messy, years-long divorce.

Watching all this, the continent’s influential Euroskeptic parties — from Scandinavia to the Mediterranean — have recast their message. They have dropped calls to leave the E.U. and are instead advocating for the less drastic approach of changing the bloc from within.

The European political scene has scarcely a party remaining advocating for a Brexit-style departure.
“There has been a shift, definitely a shift,” Stephen K. Bannon, a former White House chief strategist who consults with nationalist parties in Europe, said in an interview. “The agony of Britain in the last two years has clearly been a subtext for ‘Let’s try to make this thing work’ ” within Europe.

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Posted - Mar 31 2019 : 11:35AM
Gosh, that's a bit of a overreaction isn't it? I live in London and there hasn't been a hint of violence or even talk of it. I promise all Canadians that they will be perfectly safe from Brexit terrorism.

 
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I would think all lovers of this thread should be subscribed to Jonathan Pie on YT.

His latest:

"Here lies Teresa May...weak and wobbly Prime Minister whose leadership style was reminiscent of a depressed supply teacher."


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Posted - Apr 1 2019 : 6:14PM
^ Better:

"Thank you...next."

 
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Good article on Theresa May but she's by no means the worst factor. Despite all the talk from Brexiteers about it being 'the will of the people' 51.9% voted for it while most of those that didn't regard it as a monumental fucking disaster. The country is split down the middle. May's biggest mistake was trying to appease the right of her party, who are determined to leave the EU whatever the costs and whatever the consequences. They have nothing better to offer. When she goes she will almost certainly replaced by somebody even worse.
 
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Prime Minister Theresa May brought her case for a further delay to Britain's departure from the European Union to Berlin on Tuesday, while German and French officials insisted that any extension to the deadline must come with strings attached and assurances from London.

Britain's partners in the 28-nation European Union say they want clarity from May about what she will do to break the Brexit logjam if another delay is granted. Officials are signalling that they're not keen to give Britain a blank check, though they also want to avoid a chaotic Brexit later this week.

Michael Roth, Germany's deputy foreign minister, said as he arrived at an EU meeting in Luxembourg that "we are in a very, very frustrating situation here." But he also said that a disorderly Brexit would be "the worst of all options on the table."


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Posted - Apr 10 2019 : 5:18AM
The money is on the EU grating the UK a "flexible" delay of up to a year. It seems the EU is as oppsed as the UK to a "no deal" Brexit and wants Teresa to get her deal across. The year would be flexible in that if the UK approvd the deal within that time, then Brexit would occur at that time.


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Posted - Apr 11 2019 : 5:13AM
The extension is set to expire on 31 October 2019. If we can't get the deal approved by that date..... well, same position as now. Leave without a deal, or have an extension!!

 
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Edited by - Smiler Grogan on 5/8/2019 6:35:07 PM

 
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^ Yup! Over 400 years!

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After todays events in the House of Commons I'd better get the Queen record ready for Mrs May.

Will it be "Another One Bites The Dust"?


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^ & ^^. Here goes


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Posted - May 27 2019 : 4:59PM
Lack of Brexit progress greased the skids but the Northern Ireland issue is likely what got her pushed down the ways.
 
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She was trapped in a maze that had no exit

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Posted - May 28 2019 : 5:15AM
10 (so far) contenders for the Prime Minister's job.

Only one more for a Soccer team Brexit DISUnited. Maybe??


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Posted - May 28 2019 : 1:48PM
Eleven now up! And there could be more. Now the backstabbing, scheming and plotting can really take off. Meanwhile Farage is hoping his Party with its one policy and no members can win their first seat in Parliament on 6 June, just a day before his pal Trump visits London.

Whatever will the scriptwriters come up with next?


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As Trump has so often remarked that other countries (Russia) should not meddle in the politics of another county.

Trump states that he would favour Boris as the next PM.

A little hypercritical I think.

Anyway. We have our Soccer team of contenders for Prime Minister. Brexit DISUnited. Not a very good team by the looks.
They seem to score far too many own goals. Lol


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Posted - Jun 2 2019 : 6:10AM
Number of candidates up to 13 now.

Looks like the subs bench is starting to fill up.

The job description of "Prime Minister" at the moment would be a thankless job that only an idiot would apply for. As said above at least 13 idiots...er MPs have so far thrown their hats into the ring.

Edited by - Brummie on 6/3/2019 1:43:01 AM


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Several Prime Minister candidates have admitted to trying various drugs in days gone by.

What with the stress of the job as Prime Minister, and with Brexit still not resolved, I reckon it actually might be a good thing for the next PM to have a dabble in foreign substances. If only to calm his/her nerves.


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Posted - Jun 9 2019 : 5:52AM
The focus is on Michael Gove but I remember Boris Johnson on an episode of 'Have I got News fotr You' admitting to taking cocaine.

The private prosecution of Boris for lying has been dropped.


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Posted - Jun 12 2019 : 1:10PM
Let's go back to the moment Sajid Javid revealed that he had decided to run for Prime Minister

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