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Posted - Dec 28 2018 : 8:05PM
A friend of mine told me about this place that gives happy ending massages. I know it was stupid, but curiosity got the better of me and I went ahead and tried it out a couple of times. I figured a massage and a handjob would be harmless fun. The first time I did it a few months ago, it was ok. Not as good as I expected. The masseuse was not even nude; she wore simple lingerie and gave me a good massage and a handjob afterwards. I didn't expect to be so nervous, so it took me a while to cum. So a few days ago, I decided to go back to the SAME place again and see if I would like it better. And yes, another stupid decision. To my surprise, the masseuse I had this second time was completely different than the last one. She was totally naked the whole time and during the happy ending moment, she got on top of me and she pressed her vagina in my face while giving me a handjob and she allowed me to give her an oral. So idiot that I was, I did it. I admit, it was a great experience, but now Iím scared that I may have contracted an STD. It was such a stupid thing to do and I hate myself for it, but Iím a single, virgin guy so my willpower is weak when it comes to these things. Iím surprised a masseuse would even allow things to go as far as that. Like the first one I had a few months ago, they usually have strict boundaries. But not this one.
So am I in danger of contracting an STD from giving this woman an oral? If so, how long should I wait before getting tested? I know it takes a while for STDs to show up on tests, so I would like to know when the best time is to get one if I should.

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Posted - Jan 10 2019 : 3:32PM
You're probably fine. But for peace of mind, go see a doctor. They will tell you what's up.

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Posted - Jan 10 2019 : 4:11PM
Most STDs can be contracted via oral sex but HIV is very unlikely.
It's true that some have longer incubation periods than others but you are best off being checked out as soon as possible then again in 3 months when false negative results should no longer happen. If medication is prescribed after exposure to an STD, it's much more effective when taken sooner after that exposure rather than later.

Edited by - AngryPirate on 1/10/2019 4:17:32 PM


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Posted - Feb 11 2019 : 5:02AM
First relax and take it easy.

1. There has been no reported instance of ever getting HIV through oral. It is pretty much impossible, two every other STD can for the most part be cured more or less. Except Herpes, and three the only deadly STD you could have gotten though the chances for that are small too, is hep-c and even that recently got a cure. Though it is very expensive, about 70 grand-150 grand at least for 12 weeks of pills you have to take.


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Posted - Feb 11 2019 : 3:52PM
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1) Call it semantics if you wish but it's folly to impart something as "pretty much impossible" when "very unlikely" is more appropriate. HIV transmission through oral is theoretically possible when the person exposing themselves to an infected person has open sores or ulcers in or around their mouth. On a probability scale, "very unlikely" is infinitely greater and more probable than "impossible".
2) I assume that by "more or less" you mean "subject to the availability of medication"? Not every medical centre capable of treating gonorrhoea can cure it given that some strains of the bacteria are resistant to certain antibiotics.
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Posted - Feb 14 2019 : 5:09AM
Fair enough to the the gonorrhea part, but just cause something has a probability numbers wise, does not mean it is possible in the real world. There is technically the probability your atoms vibrate at the same frequency as the wall you are about to touch, so that as you touch it your hand goes through it. While technically possible, it is realistically impossible to achieve.

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Posted - Feb 14 2019 : 6:26AM
^ I've never heard that. But I have heard that statistically your chances of winning the lottery are basically the same whether you purchase a ticket or not.

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Posted - Feb 14 2019 : 4:22PM
^^ I am aware of the practicality of low probabilities. If you wish to take the risks yourself and count on numbers to protect yourself, I am nobody to stop you from living your live but imparting it to others as you do is foolhardy and irresponsible, especially considering the recent HIV diagnosis of a prolific porn actor as well as the discussion of allowing HIV+ people to perform and not requiring them to disclose their status if they have a seemingly undetectable viral load.

If medical professionals say it remains possible while it is exceedingly unlikely, who are you to state that it is impossible?


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Posted - Feb 17 2019 : 5:22AM
They have to say it remains possible cause it theoretically is if every variable lines up. It is almost like the law of infinite probability.

Imagine you're flipping a coin. The chance you'll get a heads on the first flip is 50%. The chance that after two flips you'll have gotten a heads at some point is 75%. (There are four possible outcomes for the two flips: heads/heads, heads/tails, tails/heads, and tails/tails. Three of those four, or 75% of them, involve the coin having landed on heads at least once.) If you flip it three times, there's an 87.5% chance. After four flips, it's 93.75%, and so on.

Now, there's no law saying you must have gotten heads (heh) after many flips. But the more times you flip the coin, the less likely it is that it will never have been heads. In other words, as you increase the number of flips, the chance that it will have hit heads at least once approaches - but never reaches! - 100%.

Something with an insanely low probability, like for example a phone reassembling itself in the shoe box after its take apart and placed in the box, is not fundamentally any different - you're just starting off with a much smaller number. But the basics are just like the coin coming up heads: the longer you shake the box, the chance that, at some point, that insanely rare event (the phone reassembling) would have occurred goes up and up and up. The longer you shake it, the closer that chance creeps towards 100%.

This does not mean it has to eventually reassemble itself. Just that the longer you shake the box, the more likely it gets.

By the way, it's worth mentioning that these percentages are calculated from the start - i.e., they're the chance that, if you flip the coin N times or shake the box for X years starting now, the event you want (the coin landing on heads, the phone coming back together) will happen. It doesn't work if you pick it up in the middle. For example, if you flip a coin 10 times, there's about a 99.9% chance it will land on heads at least once. But! If after the first 9 flips, it's somehow landed on tails every single time, the chance that it will come up heads on the tenth flip is 50%, not 99.9%

Unless either of you had recent oral surgery(on average it takes about 4-6 weeks for typical routine oral surgery operations to heal) and bleed a lot and had the virus the chance is negligible in day to day affairs.

He just has to take it easy. I remember wish my first few girlfriends, I didn't trust them growing up because I was and still am a health nut and got checked every 3, 6, and 12 months for everything. He just needs to relax and take it easy is all I'm saying. 99% he caught nothing and if he did HIV is the last thing he should be worried about getting based off this story.

Edited by - Lime on 2/17/2019 5:25:09 AM

Edited by - Lime on 2/17/2019 5:28:25 AM


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Posted - Feb 17 2019 : 5:59AM
As I said, I understand how probability works. If you say the chance is negligible then you agree that it is not impossible. My criticism was based on you writing off any possibility of contracting the virus and seemingly imparting that as advice to live by instead of advising the OP to get himself checked out as soon as possible to eliminate any doubt. I don't know about you but I would "take it easy" with more confidence to have a medical professional give me the all clear than by blindly relying on the laws of probability.

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Posted - Feb 17 2019 : 9:41AM
That's fair, and yes its not impossible theoretically, but it is impossible practically(or at least in normal situations). And I agree with your post. I'll end it off by saying. I'm not a doctor, but I am in medical school at the moment, so obviously regardless of what I say take it with a grain of salt. But any doctor worth their salt will tell you it is a non-issue if you are receiving oral. And as for giving oral. As long as you didn't have recent oral surgery or some gum illness, or some sort of STI in your throat, you should be fine, because even then there is no record as far as I know of a person getting the virus via oral sex. That's not to say a doctor won't give you an STD test if you ask them for one, because it will put your mind at ease, and taking care of their patients mental health is also part of the job. That's also not to say you won't get other STIs doing oral, but HIV is extremely hard to get.


On a side note, do you mind elaborating which star this was you mentioned earlier "considering the recent HIV diagnosis of a prolific porn actor as well as the discussion of allowing HIV+ people to perform and not requiring them to disclose their status if they have a seemingly undetectable viral load" Also that is a really disgusting thing to do. If you want to perform with this virus you should get sent to prison with conspiracy to kill, you something. And the people even thinking of this should be shunned for life.

Edited by - Lime on 2/17/2019 9:45:43 AM


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Posted - Feb 17 2019 : 1:14PM
^ I did imply the likelihood is greater with open sores, cuts or ulcers in the mouth and given that the OP didn't clarify whether he had such ailments, it was worth pointing out. I fully acknowledge how extraordinarily unlikely HIV transmission is through saliva only.

The case I was referring to is the recent report that Nacho Vidal is HIV+ along with speculation that he worked knowing of his diagnosis but not disclosing it.

The discussion of allowing HIV+ performers to work in the industry is more general and not directly related to Nacho's case, Free Speech Coalition held a panel reviewing "informed consent" with a hypothetical scenario where those with HIV would be allowed to perform if they have a low viral load and they informed the studio and anyone they work with. Apparently no recognized testing system has been changed to accommodate this "informed consent" policy but that this is being discussed as an option is worrying for the industry.


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Posted - Feb 20 2019 : 9:39AM
Thank you! That was an interesting read. I hope he infected no one.
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