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Posted - Nov 28 2018 : 11:45AM
So, tripper, how many times under Obama did we fire chemical agents into over the border, past the border, into Mexico? How many times then did Mexico ask for an investigation into why the U.S. was firing into Mexico?
I'll answer that one when I hear the women and children thanking us for protecting them by spraying them with tear gas.

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Posted - Nov 28 2018 : 11:55AM
How about I used your search criteria.
Edited by - tripper on 11/28/2018 11:56:29 AM

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Posted - Nov 28 2018 : 12:05PM
The only incident I see detailed is the the Nov 2013 incident, described by in the Snopes article "a group of approximately 100 migrants who attempted to rush the same San Ysidro port of entry". So if their fending them off while they "attempted" to rush the border they must be shooting into Mexico. All these hundreds of incidents listed in the Snopes article were border incidents, so I am sure many, if not most of them, involved shooting into Mexico.
 
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Posted - Nov 28 2018 : 1:17PM
Here is the reality as far as I am concerned, no president should be firing chemical agents into Mexico (isn't that technically an act of war?) If Mexicans were firing chemical agents into America people would throw a fit.
No president should be firing chemical agents at children. Period.
And if 9,100 troops and National Guard have to resort to firing chemical weapons because they are frightened of asylum seekers who have traversed over 2,100 miles then we need to start giving the troops dishonorable discharge for being unfit for duty. What will happen if they actually have to enter a real war campaign?
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Posted - Nov 28 2018 : 3:31PM
If a rioting crowd, made up mostly of young men, is charging the border, the US is justified in defending the border. The troops weren't involved in this, CBP made the choice.
As far as the children go, it's an ugly world out there. It is a shame the caravan organizers are manipulating children the same way it is done in the middle east, and it's a shame that parents will allow their children to be used in this way. The caravan organizers and parents should be charged with child abuse.
On another note, do any of you find it interesting that none of the left leaning press are reporting that tear gas and pepper spray were used against immigrants at the border hundreds of times during the Obama administration. Or that the only paper to carry the story of the Nov 2013 incident was the San Diego Union-Tribune, a local paper, even though the AP put out the story, just no one picked it up. FYI, all this info is in the Snopes link I posted earlier.
Edited by - tripper on 11/28/2018 3:57:45 PM
 
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Posted - Nov 28 2018 : 4:29PM

Then we need to fire the CBP agents if they were dressed like this and scared.
By the way, if the government doesn't call it a riot they have violated the Chemical Weapons Convention using tear gas so you know the government, no matter what, will call it a riot.

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Posted - Nov 28 2018 : 4:55PM
I don't think they were scared, they were doing their job. There were between 500 and 1,000 of them charging the wall, that's a riot. The tear gas they use, 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile (CS gas) is not a banned substance in the Chemical Weapons Convention. Production, stockpiling or use of any banned chemical on that list is against international law under any circumstances, riot or not.
Edited by - tripper on 11/28/2018 5:09:54 PM
 
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Posted - Nov 28 2018 : 5:22PM
I believe CS gas is only allowed for use in riots, hence my wording.

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Posted - Nov 28 2018 : 6:20PM
^ That could be, also I edited my post to include the word banned. I have worked in this field on the nuclear side, we cross referenced other agreements, but at that time I had access to the restricted web sites and could do searches. I don't have that ability at this time, and the document is very long, with many sections. Sometimes they reference allowed substances with allowed uses. So you could very well be correct.
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Looks like you are correct. Did a google search on "allowed use of CS gas in the chemical weapons convention" and came up with the following.


Link 2 specifically mentions use "Tear gas is allowed to be used in domestic law enforcement to control riots."
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BTW, here is the link to the document. You can see why it is difficult to search in this form, it has 27 separate sections counting the Annexes, so you would have to open each one and search it individually. I miss the access I used to have.

Edited by - tripper on 11/28/2018 6:33:10 PM
Edited by - tripper on 11/28/2018 6:56:38 PM

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Posted - Nov 30 2018 : 4:42PM
Oops, he did it wrong.
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You're supposed to spray the tear gas on your nachos.
Edited by - Pieps on 12/1/2018 9:47:27 AM
 
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^ Love the pic and caption, Pieps!

Edited by - grover on 12/1/2018 9:35:48 AM

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^^
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Yemeni mother granted visa to see dying son (Source: CNN)
 
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Update:
Visa was granted too late. Son dies before Mother could see him. (Source: CNN)
RIP Little One.

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What the fuck are we doing?
 
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What the fuck are we doing?
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^ Following our Dear Leader.
 
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The whole article is worth reading.
 
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That's great for a short film. I laughed, I cried.

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^ Someone sees through his BS and more importantly, is acting on it! Good for her!
 
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There has long been a significant Brazilian illegal alien population in MA. She claims to be the victim, but did not elaborate. Based on the video, she is, at least, eating well.
 
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Hm. So THAT's why Giselle married Tom!
 
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So, if the other pledged Repubs stick to their guns....and Joe Manchin of WV doesn't crack, it will pass and Goblin will have to veto it.

 
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Posted - Mar 6 2019 : 9:47PM
^ Saw that today and saw the clips where she was grilled by the House Committee Members who rightfully want to get to the bottom of this bullshit.......

Has anybody grilled her on the kids that were sexuallly abused by CBP agents at detention centers yet?

She makes me wanna puke every time I see her.....

 
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Posted - Mar 7 2019 : 9:52AM
If she's a victim she should crawl back to to the favela she crawled out of. I'm sure there will be plenty of opportunities there for her.
 
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Posted - Mar 7 2019 : 2:24PM
That and Leonardo Dicaprio had gotten a bit tubby.
On a side note, the Germans who immigrated to Brazil a couple of centuries ago have given us generations of beautiful women. I leave out a few Nazis who fled there in the mid 20th century. Think more of them ended up in Argentina, anyways.

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In two internal memos, Marine Corps Gen. Robert Neller said the “unplanned/unbudgeted” deployment along the border that President Trump ordered last fall, and shifts of other funds to support border security, had forced him to cancel or reduce planned military training in at least five countries, and delay urgent repairs at bases.

 
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