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This just about nails it.
Whatever abstract arguments for conservative policy — and these arguments exist, and a great many people subscribe to them earnestly — on the ground, Republican politics boils down to ethno-nationalistic passions ungoverned by reason. Once a figure has been accepted as a friendly member of their tribe, there is no level of absurdity to which he can stoop that would discredit him.
We have TUP's pro-Trump posting right here on ADT to reinforce this.
 
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...even though,
 
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^
Presumably, Palin wants to get the VP nod - 'Look at me! I can do stupid and bombastic, too!'
 
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Posted - May 10 2016 : 12:59AM
Trump and Ryan to have what will surely be a very pleasant little sit-down on Thursday morning.
Paul Ryan is in a true no-win situation.
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Ugh. And I'm saying that as a liberal. I find HuffPo to have gone completely off the rails with spam headlines as well as its pro-quackery anti-science stances. I have no doubt HuffPo is a better place to work and that the quality of the output is better, but that doesn't say much when she's coming from a loony hate site.
 
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^ I mostly needed an excuse to post a picture of Michelle.
She's no Katy Tur but she'll certainly help to make the 24/7 media Trump coverage more bearable
Major Garrett has almost become a "normal" since joining CBS (after jumping over the wall and leaving Fox "News").
 
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^^" pro-quackery anti-science stances"
Are you talking about HuffPo?? That's a new one on me. They're always having articles by people like Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson and rubbing crap in the faces of those who ignore climate change and such.
I agree with you about the spam headlines tho'
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It's a week like this one that makes you understand why Paul Ryan really didn't want to be Speaker of the House.
With Donald Trump's nomination now a certainty, Ryan faced increasing pressure from all sides of the GOP to get behind a man with whom he shares almost nothing in common other than the fact that they both are Republicans -- and Trump barely even that.
When you are the top-ranking and most visible Republican in Washington, you don't get to take a pass -- as Ryan clearly would have rather done -- on publicly supporting (or not) your party's nominee.
And so, Ryan penned an op-ed in his hometown Janesville Gazette announcing that he would vote for Trump -- the word "endorse" was not mentioned (
NOTE: shades of Kelly Ayotte's statement above -SG) -- in November. Ryan tweeted a link to that op-ed Thursday afternoon just minutes after Hillary Clinton had begun a much-hyped and much-covered speech savaging Trump on his alleged lack of foreign policy vision or credentials.
In explaining why he did what he did, Ryan sounded both vaguely apologetic and overly optimistic -- insisting that Trump would adopt and push the House GOP agenda if elected while ignoring the fact that Trump makes and breaks promises as a matter of course and seems primarily only interested in promoting all things Trump.
Within 24 hours of his Trump endorsement, Ryan was reminded of why he had taken so long to get behind his party's presumptive nominee. Following Trump's insistence that the judge in a lawsuit involving Trump University was biased against him because of his proposal to build a wall along the southern border, Ryan quickly condemned those remarks.
"It’s reasoning I don’t relate to," Ryan said during an interview with a local radio station. "I completely disagree with the thinking behind that."
For Ryan, it was a preview of his next five months: Trying like hell to build out a positive GOP message while being forever side-tracked by the whirlwind that is Trump. Five months of having to answer for -- or apologize for -- every controversial comment out of the mouth of a man who represents the opposite of everything Ryan believes about the GOP and its future.
For that alone, Paul Ryan had the Worst Week in Washington. Congrats, or something.
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The results of a FiveThirtyEight and SurveyMonkey poll conducted in June1 found that one of the most indicative variables in determining Republican identification this year was agreement with the statement that the "number of immigrants who come to the United States each year" should "decrease." Trump;s campaign kicked off with a speech last June that labeled Mexican immigrants as the dregs of society ; "They;re bringing crime, they;re rapists," he said ; and has hammered on the immigration issue since, adding Muslims to the dragnet of groups deemed undesirable in the United States. The election has taken on a distinctly racial tinge, and in doing so, has clarified the motivations of voters somewhat.
Trump;s strategy, while winning him the GOP nomination in the short term, has likely only served to compound the long-term demographic and ideological problems the Republican Party has long known it faces. Over the past few decades, the GOP has remained largely white, less educated and older while the numbers of minorities in the country soared, college attainment rose and the millennial generation came of age politically. Alienating the country;s growing ranks of minorities is unwise on the sheer face of the numbers, and bad reputations can stick around for years like sports teams and baldness, our political beliefs are passed down through generations and familial connections.

 
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"This is Going To End Badly" and "Character must still count and if you haven't noticed, Trump is breaking apart the GOP and turning people to their worst selves."
 
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Sean Hannity to the Establishmentarians:
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Bullshit of course: If Hillary wins it'll be the best thing for both Hannity, Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. He'll play an outraged conservative on TV as always, but really now.
 
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Another thing: If you'll remember Hannity was one of the first ones
And now he's in total, 100% lockstep with Mr. We're Building a Wall, and is absolutely stunned that it's not going well.
 
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from The Right-Leaning Federalist:

Trump’s nomination, however narrowly decided, shows how the ideas that we thought anchored the party and would guide any GOP nominee are actually more like tertiary thought bubbles. Likely this wasn’t a sudden revolution among the voting base; those thought bubbles have probably been floating farther out into neglected GOP brain space for some time. As someone once pointed out to me, the GOP has “coasted on populist sentiment” for quite a while, and now we are beginning to see its fruit. If the base was weak enough to let Trump in, then Trump and his supporters are strong enough to ignore them and their clingy conservatism.
Consider, for instance, that GOP delegates modified the GOP platform on trade toward Trump’s protectionist positions, eliminating mention of the Trans Pacific Partnershio, decrying “massive trade deficits,” and throwing in his “America First” slogan. Trump also picked an infamous traitor to religious liberty—a dearly held conservative principle—as a running mate. With Trump at the helm, many conservative or libertarian-leaning Republicans are asking themselves: do I even belong here? Is this still the party of Reagan, or has it morphed into something else?
Defenders of the entitlement state (John Kasich, for example) aren’t RINOs anymore. Trump doesn’t want to touch entitlements, his running mate sought to expand Medicaid in his state, and all the Trump supporters I’ve talked to are at least apathetic about his weak stance on reducing the national debt. The mainstream Republican voter still wants his Social Security check and Medicare. These voters are not RINOs; the Republican Party is just the slightly more responsible home for their comfort votes.

It's not like Democrats don't have their own identity crises: In fact there have been at least two -- the Post-Jimmy-Carter era and the 9/11/War on Terror era.
But, Democrats always had the advantage of being able to shed and adapt to changing ideas -- even if the change came (or still comes) at a snail's pace. But in the age of Fox and Rush and the Tea Party and the Evangelicals and the NRA, conservative orthodoxy had been engraved in stone. Until the Orange one decided to just blow up the entire quarry.
This is the beginning of the argument of where does the party go from here?

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^Great post!
You know what they did not talk about? It's the BIGGEST ELEPHANT in the room......the monkey in the wrench, the fly in the ointment, the pain in the ass....that thing that keeps all Repubs either awake at night or waking up from a cold sweat of nightmares......
The looming demographic crisis.......we all know what it is.....there's no denying it.......and they have absolutely no answer for it......none...nada....finite.....
Reality is a bitch!!!!
and as I look at their situation.....I keep thinking about one of the greatest intros from probably the most iconic of political HIP-HOP groups back in the day.....(extra points for those of you who can name the artist and the name of the song)
"Have you forgotten that once we were brought here, we were robbed of our name, robbed of our language. We lost our religion, our culture, our god...and many of us, by the way we act, we even lost our minds!"
"Here it is, BAM!
And you say "Goddamn, this is the dope jam"
But let's define the term called dope
And you think it mean funky now, no
Here is a true tale
Of the ones that deal, are the ones that fail
Yeah, you can move if you wanna move
What it prove? It's here like the groove
The problem is this, we gotta' fix it
Check out the justice, and how they run it
Selling, smelling, sniffing, riffing
And brothers try to get swift and
Sell their own, rob a home
While some shrivel to bone
Like comatose walking around
Please don't confuse this with the sound
I'm talking about
"BASE!"

 
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Jonah Goldberg, I have to grudgingly admit, is one of those conservatives who not only has cogent points from time to time, but also a wry, acidic wit.
So I'm quite happy that, for the last year, he's been turning that venom against Trump and his supporters,
 
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Often wondered where this sample by PE is from, is it Malcolm X?
 
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^Louis Farrakhan.

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^^It was actually Dr. Khalid Muhammad...
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OH, DAMN! My Bad!
I remember him. As time went on, he said stuff that even Farrakhan wouldn't say. He lit shit up big time.


 
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U right! I saw him speak on Donahue back in the early 90's.....he was def hardcore and not afraid to speak his mind.....dismissed by Farrakhan as national spokesman for the Nation, and founded the New Black Panther Party......but his quote at the beginning of "Night of the Living Baseheads" is just iconic.....and a pillar in the Hip-Hop community.
 
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It's a great phrase but if he was too extreme for Farrakhan...Louis has said some despicable things about Jews and women, his 'speech' against the black woman Mike Tyson raped is one of the most sickening things I've seen. Not sure why the left is willing to overlook homophobia and anti-semitism when it comes from black radicals.
 
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#Never Trump-er talk radio host Charlie Sykes is shocked -
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Disingenous or militantly stupid?
 
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Based on my conversations with and observations of conservatives over the years, it appears to me, many of them have "Wife-Married-To-Serial-Cheating-Husband"-blinders on (No, Steve would never cheat on me! He just works late a lot! It's not true! It can't be true!)
In the past, when faced with the radical element in the party, most of the moderate types reacted in one of two ways:
1) "Those people are not true conservatives. They don't represent the party."
2) "There are just as many nuts on the Liberal side"
Most genuinely believe this. Like I said, blinders. They honestly believed that they were an absolute, necessary bulwark against the Liberal Menace. (As I've talked about before, the alternative is having the rest of America turned into hellholes like San Francisco and Massachusetts.)
At least Sykes is one of the rare ones having a moment of introspection...even today most conservative talking heads and hosts will tell anyone that Trump is all Obama's fault. ("His utter failures and ruination of America pushed these people to the extreme!")
 
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^ General Motors is alive and Osama bin Laden is dead.
There are a lot of serious problems worldwide, yet our biggest issues seem to be Hillary's emails and forcing pornstars to use condoms (and repeal Obamacare for the 60th time).
How soon people forget that the President literally pulled the country back from the abyss, essentially without any help from the GOP and the right-wing crazies.
Imagine where we could have been now if the GOP tried to be a governing partner -- instead of doing everything it could thwart the President and undermine anything and everything Obama -- all out of sheer mindless partisan hate to keep their base mollified.
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Long article from the Times:
 
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Remains to be seen if she gets back at him.
As one writer opines at the end of the above referenced article, it's questionable if this sort of thing would have happened were Roger Ailes still in charge. Also adding to the drama is the subtext of what happens to each of these two after the election. Does Kelly ditch Fox for a network job? Does Hannity join Trump in TrumpTV?

 
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^ Well, it's a tough question.
Sean Hannity will suck Trump's dick, and Megyn Kelly won't.
So, who's the team player
 
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I've lost track of how many times I've used this pic, but this time it seem seems as though the GOPacalypse is truly here:
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A heads up for y'all that TCM is showing A FACE IN THE CROWD on November 4th. In Canada at least so you may want to check your local listing and set your PVR. A film that is all the more prophetic with the Trump candidacy nearing its end.
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It begins....
From November 15th: [link inactive:404 - Page not found]<brConservative writer Daniel Horowitz: Weakness, failure, cronyism, idiocy: The GOP is back in DC
In case you thought Republicans would be emboldened to crush the liberal agenda and focus on their mandate, think again. Given the Republican agenda in just the first 48 hours back in Washington after the election, they’d do themselves and the country a favor by abolishing the lame-duck session.
Same failed leaders

Today, House leadership rammed through leadership elections before incoming freshmen even knew where to find the bathrooms and ensured that all the existing honchos were re-elected. Paul Ryan, R-Wisc. (F, 51%) was re-elected as Speaker, Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif. (F, 35%) as Majority Leaders, Steve Scalise, R-La. (D, 62%) as Whip, and Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash. (F, 41%) as Conference Chair. Conservatives even lost the lower tier leadership races. Rep. Steve Stivers, R-Ohio (F, 32%) was elected as chair of the National Republican Congressional Committee (NRSC) over a more conservative opponent, Rep. Roger Williams, R-Texas (C, 79%). A man who voted more with the Democrats will now be in charge of recruiting candidates for the GOP majority. The same people with the same failed modus operandi and the same broken political barometer will be leading the GOP’s governing agenda in the House. (Ditto for the Senate.)
As Rep. Dave Brat, R-Va. (A, 100%) wrote so convincingly, leadership elections should have been postponed until there is a clear direction as to the 100-day agenda of each leader. Why not give the freshmen more time to acquaint themselves with the candidates? Why the rush?

And what do we mean by the same failed modus operandi and a broken political barometer, one which tells them a winning issue is a loser and a losing issue is a winner?
Look no further than this week’s agenda:
As CR already reported, the very first act of the GOP House after the election was to create a new government board designed to market products of the concrete industry. The cost is paid for by levying what is essentially a tax that will be passed on to consumers. The federal government is basically running a 501(c)(6) business association for the masonry industry. This is the worst type of crony capitalism, expansion of government, and market social engineering that every Republican campaigned to end.
 
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GOP has been a free trade party for over 50 years. However, it's roots are as a high tariff party. Honest Abe to Teddy Roosevelt, carrying right into the middle of the 20th century, the Republican Party was for fair trading not free trading. Do you think the Donald knows this and is trying to return the party to it's original policies? Ah, probably not.
 
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The tariff talk is bullshit. The Carrier deal is horseshit and just a propaganda piece.
 
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I have mentioned Wisconsin conservative (but #NeverTrump-er) talk show host Charlie Sykes here before. He is retiring from radio, Sykes also seems to understand his own role in building up the Right Wing Noise Machine. He's honest enough to say, "I Built That"
On the surface, the explanations for Mr. Trump’s improbable win in Wisconsin are simple enough: He won big margins in rural, blue-collar counties and won the pivotal Green Bay area by double digits. But he underperformed Mitt Romney in the vote-rich Milwaukee suburbs and ended up getting fewer votes in victory than Mr. Romney received in his 2012 defeat. Hillary Clinton, however, got about 39,000 fewer votes in heavily Democratic Milwaukee County than President Obama did four years earlier. Democrats simply stayed home, though that is obviously not the whole story.
That is what I saw, and this is what it might mean for the future of conservatism. When I wrote in August 2015 that Mr. Trump was a cartoon version of every left-wing media stereotype of the reactionary, nativist, misogynist right, I thought that I was well within the mainstream of conservative thought — only to find conservative Trump critics denounced for apostasy by a right that decided that it was comfortable with embracing Trumpism. But in Wisconsin, conservative voters seemed to reject what Mr. Trump was selling, at least until after the convention.
To be sure, some of my callers embraced Mr. Trump’s suggestion for a ban on Muslims entering the country and voiced support for a proposal to deport all Muslims — even citizens. One caller compared American Muslims to rabid dogs. But right to the end, relatively few of my listeners bought into the crude nativism Mr. Trump was selling at his rallies.

What they did buy into was the argument that this was a “binary choice.” No matter how bad Mr. Trump was, my listeners argued, he could not possibly be as bad as Mrs. Clinton. You simply cannot overstate this as a factor in the final outcome. As our politics have become more polarized, the essential loyalties shift from ideas, to parties, to tribes, to individuals. Nothing else ultimately matters.
In this binary tribal world, where everything is at stake, everything is in play, there is no room for quibbles about character, or truth, or principles. If everything — the Supreme Court, the fate of Western civilization, the survival of the planet — depends on tribal victory, then neither individuals nor ideas can be determinative. I watched this play out in real time, as conservatives who fully understood the threat that Mr. Trump posed succumbed to the argument about the Supreme Court. As even Mr. Ryan discovered, neutrality was not acceptable; if you were not for Mr. Trump, then you were for Mrs. Clinton.

The state of our politics also explains why none of the revelations, outrages or gaffes seemed to dent Mr. Trump’s popularity.
In this political universe, voters accept that they must tolerate bizarre behavior, dishonesty, crudity and cruelty, because the other side is always worse; the stakes are such that no qualms can get in the way of the greater cause.
For many listeners, nothing was worse than Hillary Clinton. Two decades of vilification had taken their toll: Listeners whom I knew to be decent, thoughtful individuals began forwarding stories with conspiracy theories about President Obama and Mrs. Clinton — that he was a secret Muslim, that she ran a child sex ring out of a pizza parlor. When I tried to point out that such stories were demonstrably false, they generally refused to accept evidence that came from outside their bubble. The echo chamber had morphed into a full-blown alternate reality silo of conspiracy theories, fake news and propaganda.
And this is where it became painful. Even among Republicans who had no illusions about Mr. Trump’s character or judgment, the demands of that tribal loyalty took precedence. To resist was an act of betrayal.
When it became clear that I was going to remain #NeverTrump, conservatives I had known and worked with for more than two decades organized boycotts of my show. One prominent G.O.P. activist sent out an email blast calling me a “Judas goat,” and calling for postelection retribution. As the summer turned to fall, I knew that I was losing listeners and said so publicly.
And then, there was social media. Unless you have experienced it, it’s difficult to describe the virulence of the Twitter storms that were unleashed on Trump skeptics. In my timelines, I found myself called a “cuckservative,” a favorite gibe of white nationalists; and someone Photoshopped my face into a gas chamber. Under the withering fire of the trolls, one conservative commentator and Republican political leader after another fell in line.
How had we gotten here?
One staple of every radio talk show was, of course, the bias of the mainstream media. This was, indeed, a target-rich environment. But as we learned this year, we had succeeded in persuading our audiences to ignore and discount any information from the mainstream media. Over time, we’d succeeded in delegitimizing the media altogether — all the normal guideposts were down, the referees discredited.
That left a void that we conservatives failed to fill. For years, we ignored the birthers, the racists, the truthers and other conspiracy theorists who indulged fantasies of Mr. Obama’s secret Muslim plot to subvert Christendom, or who peddled baseless tales of Mrs. Clinton’s murder victims. Rather than confront the purveyors of such disinformation, we changed the channel because, after all, they were our allies, whose quirks could be allowed or at least ignored.
We destroyed our own immunity to fake news, while empowering the worst and most reckless voices on the right.

This was not mere naïveté. It was also a moral failure, one that now lies at the heart of the conservative movement even in its moment of apparent electoral triumph. Now that the election is over, don’t expect any profiles in courage from the Republican Party pushing back against those trends; the gravitational pull of our binary politics is too strong.
I’m only glad I’m not going to be a part of it anymore.[/quote]
 
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^ This is a powerful piece.
Honest and thoughtfully written.
Is there a way out of this?
Or, is this the beginning of the end of the ?

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^^ This.
 
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Lou Dobbs has a sad that George Will won't bend his knee;
 
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Well that was a meteoric rise and fall:
 
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Fox News legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano has been "sidelined", for his aforementioned shenanigans <ivis a vis</i the whole fictional "Obama wiretapped Trump Tower" thing .
This is the thing about Fox News; whatever they do take themselves seriously in their "legitimate" journalism reports. Unlike talk show radio and web sites, they do want to maintain a certain level of respectability outside of Hannity, O'Reilly, et al.
This is going to drag them into more and future conflicts with their audience where Trump is concerned. As he lies and lies, they're going to have find themselves saying more and more, "This is bullshit" and their audience won't like it.
 
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^ Then Fox shouldn't report the lies without vetting them first.
You know, like news organizations have done since the founding of the nation, in the pre-Fox "News" era, and now the Trump run-up to the Apocalypse.
 
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^ A brief history of
The fact is that Fox News is carrying on a long tradition of factionalism and sensationalism in the American press. What we think of as 'responsible journalism' is a phenomenon that came about during the last world war, so I wouldn't call it the norm. I would call it a welcome change, one that I'm sad to see abandoned.
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