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Posted - Dec 13 2018 : 2:03PM
I consider Legal Porno violent porn aimed at men who actually hate women. No man who loves and respects women would watch their stuff, because it is obvious that the male performers treat their female partners like crap in these videos. Although I'm not surprised by this, since I've read earlier in this thread that some of the male talents did gay porn before joining Legal Porno. It is a fact, that some gay performers, not all of them, hate women. So why not just work for a company which produces straight porn and treat the girl as bad as legally possible. And I bet Giorgia Grande hates women too or otherwise he wouldn't produce this violent crap.
I love Anna De Ville, but I'm disappointed that she did work for Legal Porno. Anna De Ville and her amazing butthole should be worshipped and treated with respect, but not fucked by women hating maniacs.

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Posted - Dec 13 2018 : 2:20PM
^ I understand, but if some the females don't mind and enjoy it, is it still abuse then? I discovered Tina Kay from these scenes and she seems to enjoy every second of it.

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Posted - Dec 13 2018 : 2:56PM
We may disagree on this one, but for me it is still abuse. Sometimes I wonder, do they really enjoy how they are treated in Legal Porno flicks or are they just doing it for the next paycheck?

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Posted - Dec 13 2018 : 4:33PM
I appreciate your sentiment but unless you've never watched porn before now then I can assure you that LP porn is not even remotely violent. It may be very extreme but violent porn involves slapping, chocking, spitting and a slew of other things that are usually non-existent in LP porn. Take a look at the stuff that Facial abuse and Latin Abuse do to get a better idea of what can constitute violent porn.
I'd also like to point out what should be obvious to anyone watching porn. The performers don't decide what happens in the scene. That's the job of the producer/director. That doesn't mean that some performers aren't douchebags but it has nothing to do with their sexual orientation. Of course some male performers are on some female performers no list but it may be for many different reasons that have nothing to do with their on-set attitude.
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Posted - Dec 13 2018 : 6:11PM
I agree with pat.

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Posted - Dec 15 2018 : 8:59AM
Why does legalporn intentionally limit the amount of wet content? I mean provided such scenes are always 100% hit and sell like hot cakes.
I see only a couple of reasons:
1) More piss scenes stops users from buying DAP and TAP content (which in most cases is tipfucking circus by itself and nobody would buy that otherwise)
2) Some regulation so that legalporn will not become #1 worldwide studio with their wet content and leave others far behind.
3) ???
Please enlighten me.
Edited by - lsnoop on 12/15/2018 9:05:32 AM

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Posted - Dec 15 2018 : 12:04PM
As far as the scenes produced by Giorgio Grandi are concerned, I completely agree with you. The times when he produced watchable content are long gone. I stated that in this thread before. I don't know if he hates women or if he does it just for the money or if he does it for both reasons. Anyway, in his scenes women are not treated like human beings but like objects. The only goal of the men seems to be to put as many dicks up the woman's anus as possible, regardless of the pain this causes, and demonstrate to the viewer that women are worthless, can be slapped in the face, pissed upon, made to drink piss etc. I feel sorry for the women who feel they have to work with Grandi and his male performers for economical reasons.
As for the scenes shot by other directors, I would say 50% of them are still acceptable, the other half show the same misogynistic crap as Grandi's scenes.
 
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Posted - Dec 15 2018 : 1:05PM
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. But at the end of the day, that's all it is.
Truth is, these girls don't need anyone white-knighting for them. They are all grown adults perfectly capable of making decisions for themselves.
Anyone who claims otherwise is far less of a feminist than they pretend to be.
Just because you don't happen to like it, or see the appeal, does not mean that these women feel the same way you do.
 
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Posted - Dec 15 2018 : 2:18PM
Cassie Del Isla looks like she's having an absolutely terrible time!
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Posted - Dec 15 2018 : 2:43PM
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Posted - Dec 16 2018 : 10:22AM
I think it's a waste of time arguing with someone if it's abuse or if the people who watch it hate women because the people who like to watch it will rationalize their like for it as something else other than liking to see women abused. Kinda like the bigot who says "I'm not racist, I just don't want blacks living in my neighborhood". That's probably an extreme example but the same logic applies. From what I've seen I think LEGAL PORNO is for the most part abusive porn. But it all boils down to what each person considers "abusive". Everyone draws that line in the sand at a different place so we'll never all agree on what's abusive. Some see any rough sex as "abusive". Some think it's abuse when slapping, spitting, grabbing, chocking, etc., is involved.
As far as the women involved go...I'm sure there are a few that actually like it and get off on it. But I'm fairly sure that the majority aren't crazy about it and have learned to put up with for the money. You really can't simply watch a scene and be 100% sure the girl enjoyed it. Some girls are good at putting on a good face and editing can help make everything look like it was okay. I've seen scenes where I didn't realize the girl was in distress until I saw the BTS footage. And there's been plenty of times when girls have said they had a hard time with a shoot but the final edited scene made it all look great. It's a job. Most girls want to do a good job and get through the scene so they tough it out to keep working and make everyone happy.
With some fans, it's obvious they hate women...but to varying degrees. If you like seeing women used as an object to see how much crap you can do to her and don't care whether she likes it or not, then you have issues with women. If you actually enjoy seeing her in pain, you clearly don't like women. It's obvious that there are plenty of people on this site who hate women and you can tell by the type of porn they like and how they talk about the performers and women in general. But at the end of the day, it's porn and porn is all about fantasy and fetish and some of those fantasies and fetishes aren't PC. And my thinking has always been most porn is okay to produce as long as it's legal, consent is given, and no one gets hurt (beyond what was agreed to).

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Posted - Dec 16 2018 : 1:41PM
i would take a middle ground on this: for the most part all of the actresses are able to handle and/or like the rough treatment. i have seen part of a scene crossing over into cruelty and it came off as ugly. so, overall it doesn't get into unwanted abuse, it's just rough. mainly the women look and act like total sluts who eat it up.

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12/18
Posted - Dec 16 2018 : 5:11PM
I've tried to watch the latest Veronica Leal video, but stopped watching it after a few minutes, because it was more about fucking buttslapping than fucking. That buttslapping shit in Legalporno videos is boring and annoying.

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Posted - Dec 17 2018 : 1:12AM
I've just started watching legalporno, i love their scenes with more than one girl because of the atogm, cum swapping numorous thick loads back and forth and anal creampies being licked up.
Reminds me of the early to mid 2000s with sandra romain, melissa lauren, katja kassin, kelly wells etc. It's going to take me a long time and a lot of hard drive space to watch all the hot looking scenes.
Edited by - shenmue on 12/17/2018 1:15:28 AM
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Posted - Dec 17 2018 : 1:21AM
^
"It's going to take me a long time and a lot of hard drive space to watch all the hot looking scenes."
Not to mention a lot of money.

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Posted - Dec 17 2018 : 1:32AM
Very true, the ticket system is new to me and i wish it was like other sites where you just pay monthly and you can download all the scenes but i understand why they do it. Most of the scenes are almost an hour or longer so i'll struggle to get time to watch the scenes. There too much porn out there that looks good but not enough time or money.

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Posted - Dec 17 2018 : 3:21AM
I really used to like LP but they have become too repetitive IMO. They released a scene with Anna de Ville today. Only ten day after her last one. Lauren Phillips 23 Nov. & 9 Dec. Alex Harper 20 Nov. & 21. Nov. & 3 Dec. Same girls over and over...
 
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Posted - Dec 17 2018 : 10:18AM
^
Yeah, along with the ridiculous ticket system, that's the biggest turn-off for me, personally. It's not just that it's the same girls over and over again, it's that almost all of them are performers that don't even interest me.

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Posted - Dec 17 2018 : 1:05PM
Same here. Sadly, I am not much into full body tattoos and striper looks.
 
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Posted - Dec 17 2018 : 7:43PM
No matter what, people will always find a reason to complain, c'est la vie

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Posted - Dec 17 2018 : 9:25PM
I think it's a valid criticism. There's only so many times you can see the same girl get gangbanged before you get tired of her. I know it's a little harsh but it's just how the male brain works. I remember I couldn't watch enough scenes of Kira Thorn when she first appeared on legalporno. I think I haven't watched a single one of her scenes this year. She has 55 of them. Fifty. Five. Scenes. All extreme anal gangbangs. Doing the same thing over and over again....
There's only so much porn one can watch and your brain instantly will look for the new blood every single time.

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Posted - Dec 17 2018 : 9:55PM
I watched a decent amount of their content when I first discovered LP, but now I can't remember the last time I watched one of their scenes. The same (small) group of girls over and over again is bad enough, but it doesn't help that their always paired up with the same guys and that each LP studio only seem to have one set. Really feels like you're watching the same scene over and over and over again.

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Posted - Dec 17 2018 : 10:01PM
As a fan of the material and a lover of women i thought i'd chime in
I feel like i read somewhere that legalporno basically has this great big house where the models/performers stay and shoot. This might be a bad comparison, but if true they function like the old hollywood system where an actor stays on the lot for a period of time, shoots some films, and moves on when they choose. This would account for why you see the same actress showcased in multiple scenes in a brief period of time. Again, if true, it's a pretty savy business model because it is very efficient.
In regards to the material, i certainly get the vibe that women are being objectifed in certain scenes more so than the average porn scene. But i think that is different than being abused. I cant watch scenes from bryan gozzlan, facial abuse, analized, james dean etc... because they cross that line and do seem to be produced and geared toward those with an axe to grind against women. Legalporno, on the other hand, is more of a circus act in my opinion. I think the women want to push and test boundaries and the male performers the same. This isnt to say they have never crossed the line. They have. I recall a scene with arwen gold where the ass slapping was too much and visibly so. I had to stop watching. But i honestly dont think it was something arwen didn't sign upfor. She filmed many scenes prior to and after the one in question.
I heard the site makes a lot of money and the models do well by them but not nearly as well as they probably should. The fact that you do see the same performers over and over tells me they have to enjoy some aspect of it. Take kristy black for instance. The girl is amazing. She keeps filming for them over and over and really seems to enjoy it. A girl like that with a little entrepeneureal spirit could make just as much money in porn without the circus sex of legalporno. Yet she keeps going back to the well.
As with all things porn and internet based it's a matter of opinion. Legalporno pushes boundaries but i like how they have created their own aesthetic, for better or worse. I actually like seeing the repeat talent because i know they aren't there for just a quick check. Typically each scene in an actresses catalogue pushes the circus further along or pairs them with another performer who is equally popular. One last comment, they are experts at pairing girls. Every time i find myself thinking gee i wish so and so would work with so and so... bam... they do it!

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Posted - Dec 18 2018 : 12:17PM
^^
I'm glad it's a small group, because this means the majority of female performers is able to find work with producers, directors and male performers who treat them with respect and don't degrade them.
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Posted - Dec 19 2018 : 8:10AM
Didn't they just release a scene where they literally stuck their foot in one of the chicks' anus? I'm pretty sure I saw a clip of that but I can't remember which scene it was. I don't think it was an old scene. I think it was new.

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Posted - Dec 20 2018 : 10:58AM
I think the problem is that LP switched mainly to the US market and therefore significantly dumbed down their standards. Look at a typical American porn movie and what has come of it:
almost black and white due to excessive color corrections,
same 100% identical closeup picture along with ooohs and aahhs to the point the performers' identities are irrelevant
Yet a typical customer keeps consuming it so why bother.
Edited by - lsnoop on 12/20/2018 10:59:54 AM

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Posted - Dec 21 2018 : 9:19PM
Probably!
But the real question is -- which was more disrespected, the ass or the foot...?

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Posted - Dec 22 2018 : 7:49PM
My problem is I am just not that into the double or triple anal thing. My fantasies just do not usually pertain to another dick in the room. But, if you like that, more power to you. Who the fuck am I to say what is right or wrong. God knows I like some kinky crazy shit! It just doesn't involve another guy being around.

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Posted - Dec 23 2018 : 8:36PM
LegalPorno has just released its 2018 XMas orgy scene.
There's only one word, wOw!!!!
10 of the most amazing girls of 2018 open these beautiful asses wide for our ultimate pleasure!!! [:P)]

Be sure to have this gift under your XMas tree
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Posted - Dec 23 2018 : 8:52PM
^ Where is Tina Kay & Victoria Voxx? Most of these women are nowhere near the best, and the cumshots were weak.

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Danke für alles, Basti
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Posted - Dec 24 2018 : 3:10AM
^What's so great about 10 girls vs ?? men? Judging by the trailer, it's pure chaos. Camera cuts every 5 seconds. Doesn't look like good porn to. Just a gigantic mess.

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Posted - Dec 24 2018 : 4:23PM
I am not so much into gangbangs, but that first part (before the guys showed up) was pretty damn awesome!! Certainly not the best camera work ever done, definitely needed more of a Jay Sinn type touch on the camera work. But Holy fucking God, if walking into a room like that is not what Heaven looks like, then I want no part of it.

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Posted - Dec 25 2018 : 7:49AM
I don’t get your point!

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Posted - Dec 25 2018 : 8:45AM
Decent scene but weakest XMas special cast in recent years tbh. Gina Gerson is the only porn 'A-lister' in there.
They used to have girls like Alexis Crystal, Henessy, Mea Melone and Belle Claire in these XMas specials ...
Kinda sums up a disappointing 2018 for LP though, they can't seem to get the most popular Euro girls to work for them anymore. Not necessarily their fault, the up-and-coming stars are probably too busy doing Glamcore for Lansky.

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Posted - Dec 25 2018 : 11:31AM
Since Kira Thorn is there, it'll be a big hit! I luv the way she's all down to those things, THX!

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Posted - Dec 25 2018 : 11:37AM
Oh look there's a 1 hex 10 orgy scene with all their best selling models and people are complaining on the internet.

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Posted - Dec 25 2018 : 11:52AM
Where do you get your facts?
Edited by - arnold the geek on 12/26/2018 7:46:23 PM

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Posted - Dec 27 2018 : 12:56AM
^ He's a vastly misinformed troll.

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Posted - Dec 27 2018 : 6:31AM

From where I'm sitting, all the girls in the LP Xmas Orgy front page, in their Santa hats and candy stripe leggings, are drop-dead gorgeous!
I have to admit though, that as the years progress, I've become less discriminating. It's one of the few advantages of getting old. Santa girls like these appear to me as perfect little angels who would do anything to please...
Please don't put me right if I'm wrong! I've had a lovely Christmas.
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Posted - Dec 27 2018 : 8:09AM
We can make it partly legal, i don't know if is good or bad - but in this way a great number of person will pass through such sites)))

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Posted - Jan 15 2019 : 9:37AM
Can anyone tell me whats the memberships structure for this site. Completely confused and is it worth it .
I know you buy tickets but you only get that many scenes? Makes no sense.

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Posted - Jan 15 2019 : 1:03PM
In these days with no DPs on other sites I believe one of the best sites
Edited by - epistimonas on 1/15/2019 1:06:49 PM

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Posted - Jan 15 2019 : 7:02PM
^It's true that LP is the only site to add so many new DP's on a weekly basis but it's also true that most of them aren't just a standard DP scene and usually include a DAP so unless you are a fan of both fetishes then your total number of new DP scenes is a lot smaller. If you remove the ones that star the same women who already have at least 4 or more DP/DAP than that number gets even smaller.

 
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Posted - Jan 15 2019 : 8:50PM
Hi Saskatoon. Greetings from New Brunswick.
The LP pricing structure is definitely confusion. They offer scenes by trading the tickets you buy from them, you can but them for a cash price and there are some options to join with a subscription though it isn't like any other site's subscription.
I'll address the subscriptions first since they may be tempting. You can't pay one fee and get total access to everything on the site. You can buy a monthly 'subscription' to any (or most) of the studios there. But... you are only given access to what that studio uploads that month. That isn't as bad as it sounds since the bigger studios put out a lot of scenes each month. But you're out of luck if you want a scene that was uploaded the month before. And you're also out of luck if you see a hot scene you'd love to have if it was uploaded by another LP studio because your 'subscription' limits you to the studio you bought access to.
Just paying for the scenes is an option too but I wouldn't recommend that since the cash prices are usually much higher than the ticket prices.
My preference, after doing a lot of figuring, is that the tickets still work best for me. You can buy the tickets in bulk at a lower per ticket price (though you're buying them in volume so they're still pricey). But your tickets won't expire and if you exercise some restraint you can select all the scenes you really want.
This is only my opinion, but I think that unless you know you only want one studio and you're willing to pay to access that one studio and have access to ONLY what they upload that month then the tickets are a better value. You, and many others here, may not agree. Your mileage may vary depending on how careful you are about what you buy and download.
The biggest problem I face with LP is that I really like what they offer so it can get VERY expensive if I'm not careful.
One final caveat. Others with more insider knowledge than me report that some of the softer stuff on the site (yes, there is a bit of it) is actually licenced from the DDF site. DO NOT spend your tickets on those since you can get a relatively inexpensively through a subscription to that site. I think there are a few other licenced studios here but they aren't nearly as prolific as the main studios but you should be careful.
Let me know if you need anything else. If I can't provide an answer I'm sure someone here can.

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Posted - Jan 15 2019 : 9:15PM
^ I'd be better off buying 10 tickets for £10 or 20 for £20 directly.

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Posted - Jan 16 2019 : 8:08AM
^Maybe but unless LP has significantly lowered the number of tickets it takes to buy a premium video then 10 to 20 tickets may not mean much more than 3 to 4 videos. I just noticed that they no longer write the number of tickets it takes to buy a specific video so hopefully rearadmiral or another member can tell us if it's still very high because it used to be.
 
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Posted - Jan 16 2019 : 11:44AM
Reading this discussion, I was curious to see if there have been changes to the scene and subscription prices. I just signed in to my account for the first time in a couple months. Looking at the "TKT" page, I still feel like the Ticket Memberships are the best option, especially for someone who is new to the site. The first time I made a purchase on the site (back in September of 2017), I went with the 1-month ticket membership. Right now, that 1-month ticket membership option goes for $29.90 and gives you 42 premium tickets immediately. By the way, it's also worth noting that when you purchase one of those ticket memberships, you receive one "Free Ticket" each day you have the membership, so you end up with 30 free tickets each month. Those free tickets can be used to purchase scenes on the site that were released 2+ years ago.
As for the question of whether or not the ticket price for the average scene went up, I can't tell. Here are some of the prices for the most recent gangbang scenes:
Ginebra Belluci-5.3 TKT
Linda Sweet-4 TKT
Lilly Hall-5.5 TKT
Lisey Sweet-5.5 TKT
Veronica Leal-6.6 TKT
EDIT: After browsing the site some more, it appears to me that they no longer do the "free ticket" thing. Instead, they now have a list of scenes listed as "Free Scenes," and with a membership, you get unlimited access to all of them. However, going through the list, they appear to be mostly tame 1-on-1 scenes. Additionally, it looks like older scenes (released 2+ years ago) have to be purchased with premium tickets.
Edited by - Mass Facialties on 1/16/2019 12:00:20 PM
 
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Posted - Jan 16 2019 : 1:39PM
^^^ secret guy: you'll have to work that out for yourself but the better deals are when you buy more tickets. But the up-front cost is more too so there's that issue.
^^ pat: Mass Facialities probably answered your question first and gave some current example. While there are some scenes that cost approximately 2 tickets those aren't common. There also doesn't really seem to be a strict formula for pricing either. It's fair to say, as MF has, that a lot of scenes will cost 5+ tickets.
^ Mass Facialities: I agree that the 1 month ticket membership is a good value (as far as 'value' applied here!). The only downside to that is that unless you cancel you'll get those tickets monthly until you do. But just doing some quick math does show that is likely the best value.
As for the free stuff, I've never really been able to take advantage of that. I kept the recurring one month ticket subscription for several years so all of the older I stuff I could get for free I already have, and paid for. The cost of impatience...

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Posted - Jan 16 2019 : 1:47PM
^Thank You for then info. If my memory is accurate then your listed ticket prices seem about right for premium scenes which in turn means that if you only buy 10-20 tickets than you better be ready to only own 3-4 premium videos.
Now as to the free content. Maybe I'm wrong but I thought that you could get a lot more than just 1-on-1 content so if that is no longer the case then anyone joining thinking that they can get 3-4 year old videos for free will be very disappointed. Even more so when they see that the required number of ticket for those older scene is still quite high.
 
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Posted - Jan 16 2019 : 6:33PM
I don't usually check the free scenes even though I have amassed a lot of tickets for them because I'm impatient and buy them when they're new (and expensive). So because of this conversation I just went and check and learned a few things that surprised me. It sure does look like most of the free scenes are one-on-one, with a few exceptions. But the thing that surprised me most is that what I saw when I sorted by 'new free scenes.' The 'latest' of the free scenes is from September 14, 2017. Yes, 2017. It's possible that I may have somehow screwed it up but I don't see how. I went to the page for free videos and then sorted them by newest. That seems quite straightforward.
It does appear that as you go back deeper into the free catalogue that there are more than 1-on-1 offered but by that point you're downloading 8 year old videos.
This is worse than I thought.
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