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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 1:35AM
My fiancee and I drove by the hospital, and there was a large crowd of people around the building. We tried to find parking on the street but there wasn't any. We then drove to the house that Michael rented (and where he was found), and we did get lucky and found a parking space. The street where the house is located is blocked off, but a lot of people were there. We noticed the lights that were in front of the driveway. That's all we could see of the house. And of course at both places there were lots of camera crews. It was one thing to see all this on the news, but it was another thing to see it in person. I admit that it was hard for me to look at the hospital because my dad was taken there.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 1:37AM
I feel the same exact way.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 1:49AM
True. But that's more of an indictment on the entertainment industry. Despite record companies attempting to repackage his success, there can be no other Michael Jackson. His talent was unique and inimitable. But again, that hasn't stopped countless entertainers since from trying to imitate him even decades later, which says alot about the significance of his influence.
Edited by - realtip on 6/26/2009 1:51:14 AM

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 2:13AM
I was thinking how surreal it seems that people would be just hanging out outside the hospital. I mean, what do they want?
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 2:42AM
I'm with you, Tricia.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 4:07AM
Oh, can we stop with this already. The only death pool-related post in this thread before the kvetching started was an extremely restrained, one line, 12 word post by neech.
 
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 4:24AM
^^^
Maybe you didn't read Tricia's post carefully, but she was making a general point about these types of threads. Daniel and I agreed with her. That's not kvetching -- it's commenting. If you don't like it, tough.
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As an aside, using "Neech" and "restrained" in the same sentence is somewhat absurd.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 4:59AM
+1 (or the absolute maximum I'm allowed to plus)

RIP

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 5:49AM
+1, There are more posts referring to him as child molester. Charges he was acquitted on. That's what I have a problem with.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 5:59AM
The autopsy report should be interesting.

Edited by - Dean Wormer on 6/26/2009 6:03:35 AM

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 7:47AM
RIP

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 8:57AM
Feels like all the icons and legends are dying without being replaced, as if people don't care about music the same way they once did.
Too bad Michael hasn't been able to stay on top like Madonna, but his life has probably been a lot rougher. Not a big fan but sure not even I can deny the dance classics. His fans must be shocked that he passed so early (even though 50 isn't so bad).

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 9:58AM
It was sad, the radio station I listen too plays mostly 80's and 90's and they had call-ins to get the reaction of the Black Hills area and for the most part they were sad and supportive of Michael. I was a fan of his music in the 80's, hell the Thriller is the most sold album of all-time (last time I checked) and it will be something that will stand the test of time, so he should be remembered for being a transcendent musician. Unfortunately the last twenty years will always hang over his legacy like a storm cloud.
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 10:48AM
Just because he was acquitted doesn't mean he didn't diddle children...
I won't miss him, then again, I didn't know him.
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 11:18AM
On the business side - I don't think the promoters of his 50 concert tour have to worry about losing money on their venture. Tribute concerts will be in demand, and keeping the original tour dates would be nice sentiment for his fans. I heard that he has the top 7 song downloads on either iTunes or Amazon. His estate will be out of the red soon. Especially if Michael still had any interest left in the Beatles catalog.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 11:43AM
It's probably just a rumor but I heard he willed the Beatles catalog back to McCartney. It sure would be cool thing for him to do but I bet it's just a rumor.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 12:37PM
From what I heard, no one has even been able to locate a will as of yet.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 12:46PM
One day later, and the depression is finally starting to really sink in.
I'm a child of the 80's, born in 1977. Michael Jackson was pretty much the end-all, be-all of my childhood when it came to music and entertainment. Like many posters here, I was always rooting for MJ to successfully stage a comeback and go out on top.
I fully acknowledge that the man was bizarre and downright freaky. I make no excuses for his behavior. You can't blame all his proclivities on the type of childhood he had.
I choose to mourn the legendary performer and innovator who defined entertainment for me.
Shamon, Michael.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 1:33PM
This has been a very interesting experience.
Last week my daughter, who as most of you know is about 19 years old now, was flipping through stations on television while I was sitting here at the computer doing some school work and she hit the VH1 Classic station and "Beat It" was playing, it turned out to be a short Michael Jackson segment (they played 5 songs, two of the Jackson 5 songs), and she stayed on the channel to watch the whole thing. Asking me questions about MJ the whole time. I told her about his (all of the Jackson kids') troubled childhood, we talked about Janet Jackson (who my daughter didn't even know was his sister until then), his eccentricity, and, of course, we talked about the accusations of child molestation. She found the whole thing to just be incredibly sad.
Yesterday, she called home from her job at the library (yes... my daughter, the hot librarian, let the teasing begin) to tell me, "Mom! Did you hear Michael Jackson DIED?!" She had only just realized his existence as this truly famous entertainer, and she was touched by his death.
Michael Jackson's popular '80s music represented most of what made me miserable back then. I wasn't a cool kid. I didn't have friends. I didn't see the videos. I was left out. As a pop music icon, he was the essence of popularity, and I was the antithesis. He was everything I hated, because he represented everything I could never have.
As an adult, as I learned about his unhappiness and troubled life, I felt sympathy. This person, who I thought had everything that could possibly make a person happy, was not even as happy as I was. So, I quit hating, but his '80s music was still a station changer for me. Overall, I find that his death is essentially meaningless to me. I am relieved that I will not have to continue to see his downward spiral, as he grasped at a comeback and tried to make himself relevant. That's about it.

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Blithering Birthers
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 1:59PM
What about the kids? but it also says a little about his parenting.
excerpt - “Since the criminal trial, he really devoted himself to his children,” Dimond explained. “He was very big on books. If there was a downside, it was that they weren’t in school. There wasn’t any exposure to other children.”
I'm usually pretty callous and indifferent to celebrities, but his three kids need someone very strong and committed to their best interest.
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 2:01PM
I hear that, because so much of him was plastic, he'll be melted down and made into LEGO blocks, so kids will be able to play with him for a change.
 
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 2:10PM
That would be cool.
However, given the reports that Jackson was in debt to the tune of $400 million or so, there probably won't be much of an estate left to will out once his creditors get through with it. But maybe McCartney will buy back the catalogue at the auction of Jackson's assets.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 2:15PM
Reports here in Uk is that Jacko had a problem with morphine addiction and that some doctor is being spoken to by police. I know. Why do i bother listening to hearsay.
 
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 2:25PM
Which sheds a lot of light on what actually makes people happy in life, despite what we tend to fantasize. Undoudtedly you're now happier than he ever was.
I never envy celebrities. But he's a particularly tragic figure given the twin extremities of his talent and his self-hatred, both of which were so publicly on display.
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 3:47PM
I'm a child of the '80s, so all those MJ videos were like magic to me when they came on MTV, especially "Billie Jean" when the squares on the sidewalk lit up when he stepped on it. His videos were an event unto themselves.
But, the whole child molestation thing turned me sour on MJ as a person. I can still listen to his music, but there are a few songs with lyrics in them that take on a different meaning because of the accusations.
I really never expected MJ would be one celebrity to die so unexpectedly and at a relatively young age. You could have said "Lindsay Lohan died today" and I would have thought, "Yup, that seems about right." I always figured MJ would just get old and disappear out of the spotlight and try to hide his face as it got worse and worse due to age and gravity. But it's not to be.
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 3:50PM
Here are some more rumors if anyone is interested. One is that he has a vault of a hundred tracks that were never recorded so maybe his fans can here him sing some new music again.
 
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 4:01PM
Yes and no. He had been doing someting close to starving himself to death for quite some time, in addition to whatever other unhealthy and self-destructive activities he had been engaged in. Until the comeback-tour rehearsals, he had taken to a wheelchair due to his self-induced physical frailty.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 4:07PM
I remember the big deal about "Billie Jean" on MTV. Up until the that video in 1983, R&B aka black artist were never shown. CBS Records president basically said if you don't play Jackson, you can't play any of our artists. Micheal was so popular MTV had to change there format.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 4:23PM
^ MTV was only about two years old at that time. It would've been more significant it they had been around for years and then changed.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 4:40PM
^ Regardless of whether they'd been around for two years or a hot minute, it still seems insane that a network had a "no black artists" policy at all.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 4:49PM
Amazing....How many people overlook the fact that his name was Chester.....Chester the molester.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 4:49PM
Speaking of MTV, that's another thing Michael Jackson greatly influenced. MTV arguably would never have become as popular as it is without Michael Jackson. Before Michael Jackson started making is famous videos, black people generally didn't watch MTV because it didn't play black artists. But when MTV started playing Michael Jackson, he drew in not only black audiences, but everybody else who probably would have never watched it. MTV is just one of the many things that became gold as result of Michael's talent.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 5:09PM
It stills seems crazy that he is gone,when walking to work today and seeing all the news stands with the headlines seemed unreal although when your time is up stature/wealth etc mean nothing...plenty of tribute shows have been playing on the television in the UK and one thing that still strikes me is "The Moonwalk" After seeing Michael do the moonwalk i bet everybody has just about tried to do it at some point either in the privacy of there bedroom or at a club,i know i tried to do it .
Edited by - stinkfist on 6/26/2009 5:11:40 PM

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 5:12PM
Yeah, everyone accused of a crime is guilty.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 5:58PM
If they were never recorded, how the heck wod we ever hear MJ sing this new stuff? Artificial voice replication?
Maybe you meant "released"?
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 6:27PM
I believe that both his and the Beatles catalog were heavily mortgaged. I doubt his estate will be in a position to give anything away.
It will probably take years for the financial mess he has left behind to be straightened out.
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 6:49PM
Ya... cause every rich fucker acquitted of a crime never did anything wrong....


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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 6:54PM
I just watched the press conference with the coroner..they have found the cause of death..he died from suffocation..in his mouth they found 12 year old nuts.
Sorry, I just had to. He was a musical god, but he all but admitted he was a pedophile while on that 20/20 interview, admitting he slept with little boys and found nothing wrong with it. He was a sick fucker..he had the world, but he was obviously a very troubled person.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 7:08PM
The problem with this statement is that sleep with has dual connotations. Did he sleep in the same bed or did he have sex with them. What Jackson is guilty of is extremely poor judgment. He put himself in situations where people will automatically assume the worse.
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 7:14PM
He did some great things musically- but he was indeed a creepy fucker.
Insecurity consumed him.
Clam Digger
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 7:27PM
^Considering his up bringing there seems to be little doubt of that.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 7:55PM
Any creepy 40 something that "sleeps" with 12 yr olds is guilty in my eyes. You can say I'm wrong, but it's just not normal. He was a sick person.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 8:03PM
^I'll say it then. You're wrong.
 
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 8:24PM
Lisa Marie Presley wrote a blog on her Myspace today about Michael's passing.

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 8:25PM
Is it possible to be abnormal and not a criminal?

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 8:29PM
I haven't read it. But I heard them talking about it briefly on ET. Did she mention that Michael feared that he would go the same way her father did?
 
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 8:35PM
RIP Michael.
 
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 8:37PM
Lisa Marie Blog on Michael

He Knew.
Years ago Michael and I were having a deep conversation about life in general.
I can't recall the exact subject matter but he may have been questioning me about the circumstances of my Fathers Death.
At some point he paused, he stared at me very intensely and he stated with an almost calm certainty, "I am afraid that I am going to end up like him, the way he did."
I promptly tried to deter him from the idea, at which point he just shrugged his shoulders and nodded almost matter of fact as if to let me know, he knew what he knew and that was kind of that.
14 years later I am sitting here watching on the news an ambulance leaves the driveway of his home, the big gates, the crowds outside the gates, the coverage, the crowds outside the hospital, the Cause of death and what may have led up to it and the memory of this conversation hit me, as did the unstoppable tears.
A predicted ending by him, by loved ones and by me, but what I didn't predict was how much it was going to hurt when it finally happened.
The person I failed to help is being transferred right now to the LA County Coroners office for his Autopsy.
All of my indifference and detachment that I worked so hard to achieve over the years has just gone into the bowels of hell and right now I am gutted.
I am going to say now what I have never said before because I want the truth out there for once.
Our relationship was not "a sham" as is being reported in the press. It was an unusual relationship yes, where two unusual people who did not live or know a "Normal life" found a connection, perhaps with some suspect timing on his part. Nonetheless, I do believe he loved me as much as he could love anyone and I loved him very much.
I wanted to "save him" I wanted to save him from the inevitable which is what has just happened.
His family and his loved ones also wanted to save him from this as well but didn't know how and this was 14 years ago. We all worried that this would be the outcome then.
At that time, In trying to save him, I almost lost myself.
He was an incredibly dynamic force and power that was not to be underestimated.
When he used it for something good, It was the best and when he used it for something bad, It was really, REALLY bad.
Mediocrity was not a concept that would even for a second enter Michael Jackson's being or actions.
I became very ill and emotionally/ spiritually exhausted in my quest to save him from certain self-destructive behavior and from the awful vampires and leeches he would always manage to magnetize around him.
I was in over my head while trying.
I had my children to care for, I had to make a decision.
The hardest decision I have ever had to make, which was to walk away and let his fate have him, even though I desperately loved him and tried to stop or reverse it somehow.
After the Divorce, I spent a few years obsessing about him and what I could have done different, in regret.
Then I spent some angry years at the whole situation.
At some point, I truly became Indifferent, until now.
As I sit here overwhelmed with sadness, reflection and confusion at what was my biggest failure to date, watching on the news almost play by play The exact Scenario I saw happen on August 16th, 1977 happening again right now with Michael (A sight I never wanted to see again) just as he predicted, I am truly, truly gutted.
Any ill experience or words I have felt towards him in the past has just died inside of me along with him.
He was an amazing person and I am lucky to have gotten as close to him as I did and to have had the many experiences and years that we had together.
I desperately hope that he can be relieved from his pain, pressure and turmoil now.
He deserves to be free from all of that and I hope he is in a better place or will be.
I also hope that anyone else who feels they have failed to help him can be set free because he hopefully finally is.
The World is in shock but somehow he knew exactly how his fate would be played out some day more than anyone else knew, and he was right.


I really needed to say this right now, thanks for listening.
~LMP
Edited by - bono-ONE on 6/26/2009 8:38:25 PM

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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 9:39PM
So is she saying that Whacko Jacko died on the crappo?
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Posted - Jun 26 2009 : 11:57PM
A $30 million payout to at least one of his victims and his family kind of belies your assumption.
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