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Posted - Dec 20 2001 : 6:43PM
Let me just say this movie was so great that I was just speechless at the end of it. This movie met my expectations and exceeded them ten fold. This is truly an event movie that more than met its buildup and I think exceeded it. The word that comes to mind is EPIC!!!! The scenery was breathtaking and the cast choices were right on the money especially Ian McKellan, Elijah Wood, Viggo Mortensen, and Christopher Lee. This was not an "acting" movie so don't go see the movie for that, however all the actors in this movie played their parts well. The only disappointment I got from this movie is the fact that I will have to wait a whole year until the next installment. This movie instantly went into my top 3 or 4 favorites of all time and is a lock for a Best Picture nom come Oscar time and if it doesn't get one then someone needs to be seriously talked to. I can't wait to get the dvd of this, hope we don't have to wait until all three films come out,lol as that would be too long. Also loved the Balrog sequence and the Elven cities of Rivendell and Lothlorien were straight out of Thomas Kincaid paiting. I strongly recomment this movie if you want to see spectacular scenery, action this is the movie for you.
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Posted - Dec 21 2001 : 7:59AM
Not entirely true to the book, but an excellent film by its own merits.
 
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Posted - Dec 21 2001 : 11:20AM
Yeah when Frodo was carried to Rivendell it was a male Elf who took him and of course they skipped over some stuff like the Tom B. sequence and Gandalf never told Frodo to use the name Underhill when he got to Bree and the whole bar sequence was different but those were some minor details that in no way diminished the greatness of this film in my eyes. Oh yeah Bilbo wasn't at the great council of Elrond which I would have included, that could have been a somewhat powerful scene and maybe it will show up in a deleted scene on the dvd.

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Posted - Dec 21 2001 : 4:09PM
ASTOUNDING!!!!

I had not read the books in years, so I don't recall how true to the books the movie was, but it was definitely true to the spirit of the book. Many movies try to steal from the buzz of a book. The studios just seem to want to make a quick buck. In this case, I think Tolkien would be honored if he saw all of the effort that was put into it. If Peter Jackson does not get an Oscar nomination at least it will be an absolute crime. I was afraid I might be disappointed, but absolutely surprised that I would walk out of there an feel that this movie was at the very top of my list for favorite movies of all time. It is movie making at its best.

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Posted - Dec 21 2001 : 8:26PM
I assume that all of you have read the books. Maybe that should be a prerequisite for this movie. I never read any of the books and I hated the movie.
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Posted - Dec 22 2001 : 2:08AM
HATED?! Ack! Strong word!

I think you made a good point though, Bill. If you have read the books, there's certainly a lot more fun to it. You know, the wow-that's-just-like-I-imagined-it thing.

I've totally turned around my opinion on this movie. I was expecting dorky and I was very, very pleasantly surprised at how much care was given to make this really match the feel of the book.

The casting was outstanding for all but a few parts. Saruman & Gandalf alone earn this movie it's first star! Elijah Wood makes a great Frodo, but maybe I just think this because he resembles so closely the one in the animated "Return of the King". I guess for the same reason, I wasn't so happy with the guy who played Sam (he didn't look the way I pictured him at all). Legolas the elf was played well, although I found it distracting every time the audience in the theatre snickered when they saw him (WAS that Ricky Schroeder?!), and somehow I pictured Boromir of Gondor looking a bit more fierce, brawny and rugged than the guy who played "Alec" in "Goldeneye". Shwarzenegger would have been too much...maybe somewhere between the two. Or the actors who played Boromir and Aragorn could have switched parts.

I guess reading the books also gives you an appreciation of just how hard they had to work to jam everything into a reasonably-lengthed movie. For this reason, it doesn't bug me a whole lot that the Tom Bombadil part was left out, or that some things happened kind of out of sequence. Everything still held together really well and was a real pleasure to watch. Middle Earth landscapes and locales looked very impressive. Elves, hobbits and dwarves looked like elves, hobbits, and dwarves. Orcs looked...well...kinda dumb (again this may just be because of the picture of larger, broader creatures that the animated movie put into my mind), and the troll could have been taken straight from the Harry Potter movie it looked so inappropriate. Other than that, very cool!

Good as it is, you shouldn't let this be a book substitute for you if you haven't read it yet. The book has a nicer pace, with the action and wonders paced a lot more evenly and comfortably. But again, unless you expect your audience to take a full day of vacation just to see your movie, the fast pacing was really the only way it could have been done. I'm sure the Harry Potter readers probably felt the same way about their movie.

I haven't liked much of what I've seen recently in the movies, but this, again, was a very pleasant surprise. I'd be happy to go again and see it with a friend who hasn't yet. Given the cost of going to movies these days, I think that's saying a lot.

To Planet Sex: I completely take back my misgivings about this movie being a dork display. Not at all. And I agree with you on "Attack of the Clones". From the previews, it looks like it's going to be a big suck-butt movie that even Boba Fett can't save (nice try, preview-makers). Am I to take it, then, that the whole reason Darth Vader came to be was because he was a horny Jedi in training? These prequels only serve to make the original movies seem more and more ridiculous by diminishing the characters that made it work in the first place!

Go ahead, Lucas. Kill the goose that lays the golden eggs. Give us more Jar-Jar and pubescent Darth Vader. Then dare to hold back its release date until it coincides with "The Two Towers" (LOTR Book Two). I dare ya.

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Posted - Dec 25 2001 : 5:28AM
The usual reaction to a movie based on a book which you have read is one of disappointment. The Godfather and the Third Man (I haven’t read the latter but the movie is so good that I can safely assume that it is worthy of Greene’s novel) are exceptions. Now we also have the Lord of the Rings. I could have sworn that it would never be made into anything but a ridiculous movie. Thanks Peter Jackson for proving me wrong.

What has been lost from the book – as already pointed out above - is of course the slow pace (the first volume of the Lord of the Rings is one of the best slow pace stories ever written) of the story. The four hobbits moving out of their idyllic Shire into a world where evil is increasingly present. Here Evil is present from the beginning in the battle scene and the glimpses we get of Sauron and Gollum in the first scenes and the ghastliness of the black riders have unfortunately been completely lost and they have been turned into simple action monsters and all lovers of the book will miss Tom Bombadill. This along with some of the interiors of Rivendell which looked like kitsch to me are my only criticisms of an otherwise great movie with great actors.

To all of you who haven’t read the book. Take your time and read it before watching the movie. This will enhance your enjoyment and what gaps there are you will able to fill in.

Ian McKellen was born to be Gandalf. Who was born to be Tom Bombadill we’ll probably never know.


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Posted - Dec 26 2001 : 1:41AM
Never read the books.

Loved it anyways!
so much so I'm waiting for my giant 4foot by 6foot poster in the mail!
Those damn statues get the best of ya!
I'm just starting to read the books now. Glad I have them in eBook format. Now when our lab meetings go on and on and on.. i can pretend to be taking notes.. but reading the rings. =)

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Posted - Dec 26 2001 : 12:25PM
We went to see it last night, but it was sold out :( There has never been a line at our local theater - I can't believe how many people go to the movies on xmas. We're trying again tonight... so I may be a little late for chat.

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Posted - Dec 27 2001 : 11:17AM
Loved it! I wish they would turn the sets, especially Rivendell, into tourist destinations (and I rarely wish that fate on any beautiful place :) Gandalf was the most crucial success - he was fantastic!

I can't wait a year, and then another year :(

I'm reading the books again, just so I don't have to leave middle earth.

 
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Posted - Dec 27 2001 : 12:04PM
Glad you loved it, Drew said in the chat room last night that you all had seen it and that he liked it as well. I have seen it 3 times and still want to see it again and again. I just hope they release the ultimate dvd right away and not tease us with a directors cut to be released at the end of next year or something. I want all the good tidbits on the first dvd and then on the subsequent releases. I agree with your assesment of Ian McKellan as Gandalf, crucial to the film and Viggo Mortensens portrayal of Aragorn also helped the film.
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Posted - Dec 27 2001 : 12:35PM
It´s ALREADY confirmed, from the mouth of Peter Jackson, that the DVD will have a longer cut. There´s at least 40 minutes of stuff on the cutting room floor. So, we can start salivating already.
 
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Posted - Dec 27 2001 : 2:03PM
Cool Planet, let's just hope they don't pull an Almost Famous and release a regular version and then the better film months later. I know I want to see any and all extra footage that Peter Jackson has for us.

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Posted - Dec 28 2001 : 12:27AM
Never read it. I actually must say I consider myself quite the pop culture junky and knew nothing and barely heard of LOTR before this year. So going in with a blank slate I have to say I loved it. Don't know if I should read them all now or wait till after seeing all three so it will all be totally fresh to me with nothing to compare it to. Felt like I did the first time I saw Star Wars. FYI, saw an interview with PJ where he stated the first movie was the most true to the novels in the trilogy. He says there is much more differences in the next two films with a couple chacters being greatly enhanced.

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Posted - Jan 4 2002 : 10:14PM
Tolkien's son blasted the movie without seeing it and also blasted the idea of his father work being made into films. he shot his mouth off about how he father desipse hollywood.
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Posted - Jan 5 2002 : 5:33AM
J. R. R. Tolkien detested everything connected with the industrial revolution. He would surely have disliked the idea of turning his books into movies.

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