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Posted - Feb 19 2013 : 9:10PM
Why do the people who say they don't like features not like them? is it because of the sex or because you don't like the story taking up screen time instead of seeing a sexual act?

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Posted - Feb 19 2013 : 9:20PM
I think it's good for a pornstar to mix it up and do gonzo and features if they can pull it off. It expands their fanbase and gives fans chance to see them do something different. The sex in most features isn't as intense or over the top as in some gonzo stuff and it's nice to see a girl do more "quiet" or gentle scenes.

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Posted - Feb 19 2013 : 11:00PM
Well and I like the story lines and having a script. I also really enjoy the directors I have shot for who do features.

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Posted - Feb 22 2013 : 4:57AM
Lexi Bloom said a week ago in her Reddit ask me anything that when she first started (2010), she was paid $1200 for BG scenes, but it has recently dropped to $600 for new girls. I imagine that model quality girls contact agents and upon learning about the rates, they decide to stay away.
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Posted - Feb 22 2013 : 9:16PM
Its very rare that people pay less than 1k for a b/g... some companies budgets are cut majorly but for the most part the 1k rate for b/g is still here... anything else you here of girls only getting 600 is bs esp new girls.
Edited by - lilmissmackenzeepierce on 2/22/2013 9:16:43 PM

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Posted - Feb 22 2013 : 10:40PM
Hey Mack, have you ever been approached to do any softcore cable tv stuff? Would you be interested in doing stuff like that? Is the pay for that as good as doing a porn scene?
It seems like the same hand full of girls keep popping up in those.

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Posted - Feb 23 2013 : 2:39AM
I guess this industry isn't about easy-money-making.
I thought: Well, if you are well-known porn star, you don't have any financial worries.
I guess that was misconception...
So, I'll have to re-check my New Year's resolutions...
And since I don't have impressive body parts, I'd like to stay behind the camera, that is, I'll continue to post my ideas & suggestions.
Maybe someone notices and uses them.
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Posted - Feb 23 2013 : 10:43AM
I'm sure it was easy money -- or at least better money -- during the porn heyday of the mid 90's to the mid 2000's. Print Magazines, VHS, DVD's and Pay Sites used to be very lucrative, but now it's all free. Piracy, Tube Sites and the conversion to all-digital media have brought the industry virtually to its knees (no pun intended).
I read an interesting article recently that said these days, porn isn't a product, it's promotion. The bigger, more established companies that have been able to make the transition to digital are still selling their stuff, but a lot less of it. And performers now mostly work for these companies in order to promote their live cam shows, feature dancing, social media pages (with links to their Amazon Wish Lists) and gain product endorsements for custom sex toys like RealTouch or Fleshlight, often with accompanying interactive video.
Back when people paid $40 per DVD, I'm sure Jenna Jameson and Jill Kelly were making three or four times today's going rates for scenes. But when people can download the entire DVD for free just days after its release, that just ain't happening.

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Posted - Feb 24 2013 : 1:02AM
I'm not sure if most girls were making that much more money per scene back then or not. I think most of them were making about the same but were able to shoot much more often. Girls like Jenna and Jill made more money because they had their own movie line and probably got a cut of the sales profits. I remember in an interview golden age pornstar Seka said she made 3 times what the current girls were making (in the early 2000s) but you gotta figure when she was doing porn they were mostly features where she'd have multiple scenes in one movie had to learn dialogue and the movie took all day or longer to film. So it makes sense she'd get paid more.
Anyway...I've always heard that most girls typically made around the $1200-$1500 range fo b/g unless they were a huge star or doing something above the norm even during porn's better selling era. I don't think the price has gone down that much these days in general.
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Posted - Feb 24 2013 : 2:26AM
Your point about there being more work in general back then is well taken, but my sense is that the scenes themselves probably pay less now too. The only reason I named Jenna & Jill is that they were both porn superstars in the late 90's to early 2000's when the industry was booming. Not that every star made as much as they did; I was just trying to identify the era.
I really wouldn't know the details any better than your average porn fan. Perhaps Mackenzee would care to chime in.

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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 1:30AM
I dont know what girls made back then because I wasnt in the biz then. Like I mentioned before typical b/g pay is $1000. I think with the free porn it has really bankrupted the biz, alot less shoots and wayy more girls.

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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 4:28PM
You need to do more anal scenes

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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 6:13PM
I saw your anal scene with L.T. and it was great. Amazing even. I remembered you didn't want to do IR anal so it was a nice surprise. Keep up the good work and hopefully, I miraculously meet you one day. And hopefully I have the cash lol j/k.

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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 6:23PM
As far as not getting the recognition, I think you were burning up the scene between 08-10, but then I believe you took a break. You definitely have what it takes to be mentioned in the same breath as the top stars, I guess it takes time. Some girls get the recognition immediately, others get it later. but between 2009 -2011, I would say you were very, very close to being a top act in the industry.
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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 10:42PM
I do alot of anal as is, and have since I got into the biz. So that has nothing to do with it
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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 10:43PM
I am glad you enjoyed my scene. I also did another IR anal scene for West Coast a few weeks back. I think your on to something, I was doing a hella-va job from 08-11... Eh who knows what will happen.

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Posted - Feb 25 2013 : 10:47PM
It seems to me that most girls don't achieve real porn stardom unless they are a contract girl for DIGITAL PLAYGROUND, WICKED, or VIVID...or get cast in some of the higher profile JULES JORDAN or EVIL ANGEL movies...or have Jules Jordan or one of the EVIL ANGEL directors do a movie devoted to one girl where she does stuff she never did before or takes it to another level like a J IS FOR JENNA type movie... Or if a girl has that eye-catching body part that gets her in big butt or big tit movies or is just so pretty she can't be ignored. It's possible to be a big deal in porn without doing those things but it seems a lot tougher.
I think momentum plays a part too. I think once the rise starts to happen if the girl leaves the biz for awhile and comes back it makes it harder to keep get back to where they were before unless they leave long enough that their return is a big deal. But that only works if the girl was somewhat popular to begin with.
Personally, I think it's better to be that dependable girl who is versatile and directors and fans can count on to deliver a great scene. The top girls have too much of a spotlight on them and sometimes people can get tired of them quicker. I think girls like Shyla Styles have best porn careers. Not the "hot" girl of the moment but is dependable to always deliver and has probably had scnes in some of the best selling stuff. She's in the high profile stuff, the lower end stuff, she can go toe to toe with the girls doing the harder stuff, doesn't avoid IR, can do big breast, big butt stuff, etc...Whatever kind of movie it is she'll likely do it and be god in it. There are quite a few girls like that in the biz and I think they're the backbone of the industry that help keep things going through all the "hot" flash in the pan girls who come and go.

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Posted - Feb 26 2013 : 5:25AM
I can see what you are saying... Honestly, being on my end of the biz I dont understand how some girls get where they are, thats all. Please understand this question didnt come from a bad place or being jealous, it came up in a conversation. I dont think it has to do with being a contract girl, or being all tits or ass... I honestly dont know how it happens....oh well

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Posted - Feb 26 2013 : 9:08AM
^ I know you didn't mean anythng bad with our original question. But it is an interesting discussion. It's the kind of thing that makes you wonder. It's all theory and speculation that probaby doesn't have a real answer. When you look at one girl's popularity then compare it with another's they probably both came about it in totally different ways and for totally different reasons.
Still...I think it's an interesting conversation...but I'm done discussing it here. Sorry if I went overboard with it.
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Posted - Feb 26 2013 : 10:43AM
^^ Well, Mac, maybe part of the reason is, and I'm just spitballing here is that maybe the casting couch aspect comes into play. I know you're against it and I know you deliver a kick ass performance; but, if I'm the director/producer and I know that I can get a BJ from certain girls that I hire, I'd go for that girl every time.

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Posted - Feb 27 2013 : 1:47AM
I think this happens more often than not actually.
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Posted - Feb 27 2013 : 1:50PM
Do g/g scenes pay more or less than b/g? I've always wondered why new girls start out doing only g/g when most of them are gay for pay. wouldn't it just be easier to fuck a dude.

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Posted - Feb 28 2013 : 10:19PM
How much pressure is there for stars to sleep with directors, producers or other power players in the industry? Is that a real thing?

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Posted - Mar 3 2013 : 11:42PM
Ive heard from a few PS in the industry (retired and not) that this occurs often but its also not so much a secret now as it was in the past. I'm figuring some new girls may do almost anything to get booked scenes just to, "get their foot in the door."
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Posted - Mar 4 2013 : 9:07AM
I would figure this sort of thing would always be fairly common in porn all things considered. I think it would be wrong if a director just flat out told a girl if she didn't have sex with him she couldn't be in his movies but I could see if a girl who cast ended up being cast more often if the girl fooled around with him. I could easily see a girl offering up herself hoping to get more work. Not to beliitle the girls but many of them are swingers and/or escorts, and of course have sex on film, so having sex with a director shouldn't be that much of a stretch. I could also understand if a girl didn't ever want to...or didn't want to with certain directors.

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Posted - Mar 4 2013 : 9:28AM
Hey Mac...How doess the whole casting thing work? Does the director already have the male talent picked to work with you or do they offer up a few names of guys to choose from or do they ask who you'd like to work with?
Also, when you go to shows and meet male performers or meet guys for the first time on set and they express wanting to work with you does that usually lead to any work because they mention you to a director?

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Posted - Mar 4 2013 : 11:19AM
any new scenes or updates from her? ive been looking but havent found anything
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Posted - Mar 5 2013 : 12:15AM
That was pretty fuckin rude, just so you know.
As a fan - and probably just in general - any time you start a comment with the phrase "You need to..." you're pretty much going to be considered an asshole.
St. Thomas would not be pleased with your method.

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Posted - Mar 5 2013 : 2:04AM
G/G pays less. I dontknow why girls start off that way. To each their own

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Posted - Mar 5 2013 : 2:05AM
I wouldnt say theres "pressure". But I already said THIS HAPPENS OFTEN
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Posted - Mar 5 2013 : 2:08AM
Sometimes the director just"assigns" your male talent. Sometimes they let you pick from either guys they use or ask me to provide who I like working with and they pick from my list.
I think it goes both ways for male performers who liked working with me to request me and vice versa

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Posted - Mar 5 2013 : 2:10AM
I have a recent scene out for brazzers. I have a couple movies I did for Wicked either out or soon to be released. You can check this website for new releases when you search movies by my name. I have been shooting more, just dont know when they get released.
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Posted - Mar 5 2013 : 9:11AM
Excuse me, Mr. White Knight but that wasn't even in the least bit "rude"- especially if you consider the context it was in. Mack P asked why she hadn't achieved the status of the likes of, say, Tori Black and then Thomasaquinas proceeded to give as constructive an answer as he could. Asking that question in the first place is an open invitation to all sorts of critique and Thomas was being as polite and respectful as possible, given the surrounding circumstances. Even had he noted Mack's inferior looks and attitude in contrast with Tori and co., it still would've been fair game because as far as I could tell, the question was genuine and NOT a rhetorical one.
I'm so sick and tired of all the suck-ups on this board...if anyone says one thing that could be even slightly conceived as a criticism towards one of their beloved PWs, the ass kissing and "troll" hunting commences. No wonder the weaker-minded of XXX workers end with such inflated egos, after receiving grotesquely unconditional and undeserved worship from their little lackeys-of-fans. Disgusting.

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Posted - Mar 5 2013 : 11:00AM
It wasn't rudeness at its extreme - whether it was "not in the least bit rude" can be debated.
I want to stress that it was obviously a very superficial answer (less polite people would say: stupid), because Miss Pierce has been a prolific anal performer for quite some time. At IAFD I count 42 scenes tagged with "Anal" (to compare an example, Tori Black has 19 lised, not even the half of it).
That was also the point Mackenzee was focusing on in her reply to Thomas' post: that this couldn't be the reason, beacuse she had almost always done many anal scenes. So she ignored whether it was "rude" or not, but emphasized that it wasn't helpful at all, because not enough thought was behind the post to make it an insightful suggestion of the reasons.
That was a smart reaction by Mackenzee Pierce. But one could argue that it was impolite by the post to answer the question when he obviously had not enough time or care to really think about the issue. Of course, that's everyone's decision. I just point out that this is also a possible line of thinking about this post.
Trust me, that's by far NOT the biggest problem on ADT.
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Posted - Mar 5 2013 : 3:41PM
I have to disagree...this is a site and discussion about PORN- what else was the guy supposed to say? Anal is undoubtedly THE number one most popular and biggest selling act in the industry. I don't know Mack's ratio of anal to non-anal vs. Tori, etc.'s (and frankly, I don't really care), but if a consumer(read: one who pays the performers' bills) wants *more* anal out of Mack, then that's an entirely legitimate request. So apparently she DOESN'T do anal enough if at least one person yearns for more.
Asking why you aren't as popular as someone else isn't always the brightest idea, due to the delicacy of the subject. Feeling are bound to get hurt. I now get the strong vibe that Mack was just venting about how her career has fallen somewhat flat in comparison to others'. Complaining about one's own relative lack of popularity is never becoming, so her bringing up that whole issue in the first place was quite a poor exercise of judgment, IMO. A classic lose-lose scenario. Though factor in the whole bit about anal, and you could call it a 'loose-loose' scenario. :D
Edited by - mjkop on 3/5/2013 3:43:22 PM
 
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Posted - Mar 5 2013 : 4:13PM
MacKenzee is pretty much known for her anal scenes. Almost all her scenes these days are anal. To suggest that she needs to do more anal in order to be as big as certain other girls (some of whom do far less anal) seems to be missing the mark.
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Posted - Mar 6 2013 : 3:15AM
MJKoP -
I find it interesting that you call me a white night, yet I'm fairly certain nobody asked you to chime in or come to anyone's defense.
Setting aside the "stupid" factor rightly pointed out by others (Mack needs to do more anal? Huh?), what Thomas said *was* rude. What else could he have said, you ask? Well, how about "Mackenzie, personally I'd like to see you in more anal scenes"? Simple & polite.
But what he said is "You need to do more anal scenes," as in, "I'm a fan of anal, and you *need* to do more of what *I* like, because I'm the all important fan." Guys get their heads chopped off in this smartbuydisc.ru for precisely this type of thing, and rightly so. Being polite doesn't make someone a sycophant, despite whatever warped sense of personal entitlement you may feel, and how little respect you clearly have for other people.
Frankly, I wouldn't care whether he said this to Mack or any other performer. I found it rude, and I expressed my opinion.
[mod edit: great post, but I've removed your last sentence as it violated the smartbuydisc.ru etiquette - "Adult DVD Talk is a Friendly Community. Treat fellow posters as neighbors. Please be respectful of each other and each other's threads. If what someone has posted angers you, wait until you calm down before you respond or simply don't respond."]
Edited by - killbillvol69 on 3/6/2013 7:49:45 AM

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Posted - Mar 6 2013 : 9:22AM
Also, what's with the fans "pay her bills" so they have rights to make requests/demands nonsense? Yes, a fan has the right to make requests but unless they are a member of the girl's website, or are paying for lapdances, are paying for her services directly or something that involves paying that girl directly, a fan isn't "paying her bills". I probably have 20 or more DVD movies with Mack in them and I don't think for a second I'm "paying her bills" at all. Why? Because if I didn't buy any of those DVDs Mack's income would've been exactly the same. Just because a fan buys a few DVDs with a pornstar in them doesn't mean they suddenly have the right to be rude when making requests or that that pornstar somehow "owes" every wackjob fan with a request something.
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Posted - Mar 6 2013 : 1:11PM
myrealname-
I was sticking up for the underdogs. I'm coming around to believing that the demand in question may have been somewhat uncalled for- but it seems that around here whenever someone rubs a pornstar even *slightly* the wrong way, everybody else jumps down the "offenders'" throats, commending him to infinity. However if a pornstar were to mouth off to or strongly express her discontent with a fan, saying all sorts of blatantly and unnecessary rude shit to this said fan...everybody else sides with the pornstar. I guess pornstars need at least *someplace* where they can feel valued, because let's face it: most of society views them as being the lowliest of barrel bottom scum...but that STILL doesn't mean that this can be their safe-haven where they get away with anything and everything.
It's this brown-nosing and unjustified entitlement that really gets me annoyed. Perhaps I overreacted initially, my overall message still stands in regards to this prevailing abuse of power.

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Posted - Mar 6 2013 : 11:22PM
Everyone's entitled to their opinion but I really don't see what was so bad or "rude" about the poster's response to do more anal. I he might've been trying to add something to the discussion but just came up with an automatic "fix it" response that some people give without much thought behind it. I'm sure that if you asked that person what he thinks would get the porn business back on track his response would be the same.
I don't read the vast majority of what's posted here but of what I've seen people usually don't do what you claim unless someone says something they think out of line directly to a pornstar and most of the time it's a harmless reminder that pornstars are people with feelings too. But it seems there are too many people here who get annoyed/upset at the thought that they can't talk to performers anyway they want and attack the person who doesn't go along with their thinking. The person complaining that they can't say what they want always exaggerates the situation and tries to come off as a victim that is somehow having their rights violated or something. Both silly and sad at the same time.
Again, from what I've seen the Mods here have handled pornstars who break the rules just like the fans. For example...Kristina Rose had things she said removed that didn't comply with the rules of the board. But more often than not I think the pornstars reactions are justified because it's usually in response to a "fan" saying something out of line. It all goes back to that mentality of people thinking they can say whatever they want in any manner because "she just a pornstar..." or "I have a right to speak to her however I want because I bought her movies once...".
LOL! Love how you insist on slipping in a few putdowns in each post. It would seem to me pornstars have plenty of places to feel valued. They have thousands of fans, some who who travel to cons to see them, fans/admires who buy them stuff, have magazines devoted to what they do, people wanting to interview them, fans who join their websites, fans who pay to watch them dance, some end up on tv and mainstream movies, some get invites to great parties, mingle with celebs, and most of all they're getting paid good money to do what they do. Their "bottom of the barrel scum" lives probably isn't as exciting and good as the haters who think it's okay to insult them but I think most porsnstars do okay.
Stand your ground.
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Posted - Mar 6 2013 : 11:39PM
What do underdogs have to do with anything? You lost me there.
Look, I think I understand the basic point you're making and certainly there are some mindless mother fuckers out there who do nothing but kiss ass,. But I'm afraid I couldn't disagree more with your perception in this case. You yourself didn't just "slightly " rub someone the wrong way. You said Mack's looks were inferior, and a whole bunch of other crap that, to put it mildly, wasn't nice. You can offer compliments or criticisms all you like, but just as the former need not be considered brown-nosing, so the latter need not descend into assholery. I can't help thinking you're just as guilty of this sense of entitlement you complain of.
Just to be clear, I could give a damn. More importantly, I'm pretty sure Mack's confidence isn't easily shaken by such random comments on a porn thread. And for the record, I wouldn't care who treated whom rudely. I probably would have told Mack the same thing if she had laid into someone for no reason. Fortunately, she has more class than that, and when she has been short with people, it's been for some pretty damn good reasons.

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Posted - Mar 7 2013 : 5:48PM
My career hasnt fallen flat thank you. If you go back and re-read the reason I asked the question in the first place you will see this and wont have to make unfounded and wrong assumptions. I personally dont care if you think I dont do enough anal. I have come to realize a long time ago you cant please everyone. I wasnt complaining simply asking peoples opinions of why some girls get to a higher "star status". IF in fact doing more anal to get to the ranks of Tori Black(she was just an example anyhow) then she wouldnt even be where she is because in comparison so many more girls including myself top her on that. Your responses to the other posters are incredibly rude. Id prefer you not talk like that to others on MY thread.
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Posted - Mar 7 2013 : 6:05PM
Well said! I roll my eyes and laugh to people like MJKoP. His opinion of my looks or the lack of doing enough anal does shake my confidence. Hes a joke, has some sort of ax to grind.
MJKoP- You surely dont "pay my bills", the companies I work for do. Like a previous poster responded to you, just because you may have bought a dvd of mine or others doesnt equate you pay my car payment or rent. I too, also noticed how you were sneakily inserting put-downs and jabs. What was the purpose of that?(thats a rhetorical question) You really have some issues if you feel the need to go on a porn blog and comment the way you do. Your not welcome on my thread any more. From here on out anything you post will be ignored.
I also advise the others who post here to just ignore this guy. Eventually, he will recluse back to the rock he crawled from. He is not worth the back and forth or time of any of us.

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Edited by - bono-ONE on 3/8/2013 3:08:55 PM
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Edited by - bono-ONE on 3/8/2013 3:06:22 PM

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Posted - Mar 8 2013 : 3:55PM
Do you prefer anal in your personal life? I noticed a lot pornstars that do a lot of anal say its way better than vaginal sex.

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Posted - Mar 9 2013 : 9:43AM
Hey Mack...Do any of your non-porn friends watch your movies and comment/talk to you about them? Do ever watch your stuff with them? Do any of your non-porn friends tell you they want to meet certain pornstars?
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Posted - Mar 10 2013 : 12:59PM
Happy Birthday Mackenzee!

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Posted - Mar 11 2013 : 3:11AM
totally meant to say doesnt not does in previous post...
I dont watch my porn with my friends... I am sorry but thats just weird! I am still a normal average human being geez! In what world would someone decide to put on their porn to watch with their friends? so they can see me getting railed?? Cmon dude! I know friends of mine both guy and gal have watched my porn, but def not with me! What kind of friends would they be if they wanted to sit there have a beer and watch MY porn with me? def not the type I would want to or do surround myself with.... That question was insanely dumb....
to above poster about anal in my personal life: I do enjoy it, its not often I do it... and IS NOT better than vaginal sex! I have always enjoyed it, however the guy I am with now isnt really that fond of it.So thats why I hardly have done it lately in my personal life
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Posted - Mar 11 2013 : 3:12AM
Hey thanks bono for regulating the dick that was posting. Def glad I didnt see those posts you deleted, coulda gottenmessy! Love that the mods here really do a great job with that
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