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A whole big study with graphs n' stuff. Doesn't tell you anything you didn't already know, but interesting.
 
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The question, "If the election were held today would vote Republican." scares me, however I'm sure the response from Democrats would be just as bothersome with the question, "If the election were held today would vote Democratic." This question should be unanswerable until the candidates are known and properly looked into by the person answering.

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Report also counters the narrative that Liberals/Dems swallow MSNBC like Conservatives/Republicans do with FoxNews
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Politics Grows More Partisan
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By Charles M. Blow
JUNE 15, 2014
For an increasing number of Americans, the tenor of politics has reached a near-religious pitch, in which people on opposing ends of the ideological scale take on theological properties: good or evil, angels or demons, here to either save our way of life or destroy it.
According to a report released last week by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press: “Republicans and Democrats are more divided along ideological lines — and partisan antipathy is deeper and more extensive — than at any point in the last two decades.”
The report continued:
“The overall share of Americans who express consistently conservative or consistently liberal opinions has doubled over the past two decades from 10 percent to 21 percent. And ideological thinking is now much more closely aligned with partisanship than in the past. As a result, ideological overlap between the two parties has diminished: Today, 92 percent of Republicans are to the right of the median Democrat, and 94 percent of Democrats are to the left of the median Republican.”
This is not to suggest that there is absolute parity in our polarization. As the report makes clear, while 27 percent of Democrats see the Republican Party as a threat to the nation’s well-being, 36 percent of Republicans see the Democratic Party as a threat. Conservatives were also more likely to say that it was important to live in places where people shared their political views. Additionally, conservatives were more likely to say they would be unhappy if a close relative married a Democrat than were liberals to say they would be unhappy to have a Republican in-law.
This phenomenon coincides, to a certain degree, with the rise of talk radio and the stridently ideological cable news — profit-driven provocateurs whose livelihoods ride on their abilities to rouse rabble, stir passions and diabolize opponents.
And many of their listeners, viewers and readers become the apostles of passion, enforcing rigid binary ideologies that accommodate little subtlety. Any seeming equivocation is deemed evidence of apostasy. This, in itself, is dangerous.
Our politics are now strung with tripwires of hypersensitivities and micro-aggressions. Every position is assumed to have a sinister subtext, made all the more complicated by the fact that some actually do have such subtexts.

The phenomenon, more recently, is epitomized by views about President Obama, which, depending on which silo one is in, either read as blind allegiance or blind hatred. This robs him of the glory of his legitimate achievements and artificially shields his missteps.
To be fair, his presidency, in many ways, has been hamstrung by opposition. In the wake of his ascension came the rise of the Tea Party, the incredible assertion by the Senate minority leader, Mitch McConnell, that conservatives’ top priority should be to keep Obama from being re-elected (that didn’t work out so well), the stunning assault on voter rights, the influx of conservative billionaires like the Koch brothers into the political arena, blatant gerrymandering after the last census and the unprecedented levels of obstruction by Republicans in Congress.
Still, there are real and legitimate debates to be had about the size and role of government, how to grow and expand the economy, how to help the least fortunate in the short and long term, how to position America militarily in the world as the last remaining superpower, how to protect — or expand the recognition of — the right of the individual, especially when those individuals are members of minority groups, while respecting the democratic desires of the majority of our citizens.
We must wrestle with these each in its own turn.
There are some moral issues on which there can be no ambiguity. For instance, people cannot be treated differently because of the way they were born, developed or identify; women must have access to the full range of reproductive options; and something must be done about the continued carnage of gun violence in this country.
There are other areas, however — the continued existence of the detention center at Guantánamo Bay, the use of drones, government surveillance — that require critical, nonpartisan examination, regardless of who is in charge, in part because many of these policies overlap Republican and Democratic administrations.
We must continuously audit our allegiances, not only to keep adversaries at bay, but also to keep allies loyal and true, and to understand that our friends and our rivals aren’t necessarily discrete and oppositional on every issue. Loyalties too freely given and too uncritically maintained become fertile ground for — and, in fact, issue license for — the corruption of conscience and the betrayal of principle.
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Fox & Friends, possibly the absolute worst program that channel has to offer, has gone in full throttle on Ferguson. Of course, the Fox News narrative has been threefold: 1) He most likely was fighting with the cop, 2) We've got video of him committing that strong-arm robbery [1] and 3) Look at the Black on Black crime in Chicago and elsewhere!! [2].
But on F&F, a new theory was put forth: we shouldn't call Michael Brown an "unarmed teenager". Why? Because he's 6'4" and almost 300 lbs!

On August 25, Chavez and Fox & Friends co-host Steve Doocy aired surveillance footage from the convenience store that Michael Brown allegedly robbed before his death, and used this to argue that describing Brown as an "unarmed teen" at the time of the shooting is misleading.
In an op-ed Chavez wrote for the New York Post, she argued that "The actual images of Brown on the video surely do not bring to mind a harmless teen."


This is just a sample of the sick, awful, yet brilliant reasoning that makes Fox News a hit with its overwhelmingly white, elderly, rural, and protestant audience. The key here is when Chavez says "he doesn't LOOK like an unarmed teenager." She never says "Black". She doesn't have to. It's inherent in every photo and the video of the "strong-arm robbery" [1]. Of course he doesn't look like Opie Cunningham. Of course he doesn't look like one of OUR kids or grandkids. Y'know...a REAL teenager.
Of course, very few Fox Viewers are on the fence on this topic: THOSE PEOPLE. AMIRITE?
But for casual viewers who've just joined in, [3] or if some Fox viewers need some help in spinning this tale to their squishy liberal friends, it's easy. Michael Brown does not count as an unarmed teen, because he's so big and threatening just like we saw on the videotape. And if he doesn't count as "unarmed" then the Librul Media has, of course, blown this whole thing out of proportion. There's no story here! Back to Benghazi!!
This doesn't explain at all how being 300lbs is supposed to make one invincible to six bullets, but give it time, Fox and Friends will probably get over that hurdle as well at some point.

[1] "Strong-arm robbery is Fox' newest buzzword. I have no doubt that if this was a skinny white kid, (you know, a REAL teenager) this would be called shoplifting. But because its commited by a 6' 4" 300lb unstoppable engine of destruction, this is now elevated to the level of a Brinks' heist.
[2] Black on Black crime occurs in many cities, but we prefer to concentrate on Chicago. No special reason. None at all.
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This is worth a read I guess -- warning: its long -- but I have the same opinion as what I said about Ted Koppel's opinion: Fox mainly mirrors the biases, perception and ideologies that are already out there. They do give their overwhelmingly White audience cues on how to parse words and use marketable language, but they're not "tearing us apart". That gives them too much credit.

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I lose track of the news of mergers and purchases and who owns what. Comcast owns MSNBC. It does a swell job of being a faceless conglomerate, but it's still one guy at the top with the voting stock and vast wealth: Brian L. Roberts.
 
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In case there is anyone out there who still believes that Fox News is "Fair and Balanced" this week's tragedy in NYC shows a perfect example of who they cater to in their audience:
No? If you watch Fox obviously not, as they deigned that incident unworthy of a "War On Cops" Headline. This report on Fox' coverage of that is from June:

 
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One more thing:
But no, at Fox News guns don't kill people -- dangerous, Minority-populated East Coast cities kill people.
 
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OK, now this is where Fox News Is MOST CERTAINLY bad for Americans:

"There is a lot of controversy especially with those vaccinations when it comes to newborn babies," Tantaros opined. "And not just about measles. I know, personally, I had a brother who was autistic, and there is a belief among many that it's not the actual vaccinations that cause autism, it's the proximity of the vaccinations, that their teeny-tiny little immune systems can't handle those vaccinations so soon after the other."
"So, I am sensitive to every parent's concern," she added. "I do think it's a public health issue. I am sensitive though also to the people -- maybe for religious reasons or other reasons -- who have these beliefs. And I wouldn't want to trample on them."

There is no anti-government issue (excepting the military) that Fox News will not jump on in a heartbeat. And because their audience consists of those devoted to such a lifestyle/POV this is the sort of thing that could have devastating consequences if they start preaching about it wholesale. Tantaros is so nakedly postioning herself for her own show, (tv or radio) book deals, etc. etc, she's the type willing to say anything, and willing to feed red meat to anyone.
The only saving grace is that most of Fox News' audience is so old they don't have children of their own to be vaccinated anymore.
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Although that does not, er, inoculate her from receiving criticism from the readers of News Max. (read the comments section)

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In reddit, there are many links I scroll past automatically because the sites are not credible news sources: Fox, USAToday and all other Gannett venues, and NYTimes.
 
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Now is the NY Times not a credible news source?

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^It's a propaganda arm of the government, as we saw when they collaborated in the destruction of Gary Webb.
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Given that the NY Times just fought a 7 year battle against the U.S. Government, I think your claims are far overstretched, and if that doesn't show it, then their partnership with Assange for a series ought to do it.
 
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Actually, conservatives can claim a number of policy and political successes, thanks to the fact that they control a shitload of the nation's state legislatures and the capture of the Senate last year.
But otherwise, I agree with this article and have said so numerous times. Fox News has no fidelity to the RNC, or to the ideals of Barry Goldwater or William F. Buckley. They have an obligation to Ratings, Ratings and Ratings. The Republican party is going to reap what it sows.
 
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^

Pundits and prognosticators are all over the map as to which candidate benefited the most last night, but the biggest, clearest winner was Megyn Kelly.
 
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Hmph. Megyn Kelly is going on vacation. Two Weeks. Said vacation to begin, immediately. As in, "Right Fucking Now."
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I actually heard MSNBC talking heads praise Kelly over the way she handled the debate. I immediately went to my window to peruse the sky for flying pigs.
 
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As I said in the GOP, there's a lot of Pro-Wrestling style stuff going on here that's better than anything Vince has put on in years.
Trump is the mega-heel, Fox News are the soft-heels, and Kelly was a part of their stable, but did a swerve, and has now gone tweener. So Roger Ailes had to change the booking -- much like the WWE did when it discovered Lita was having a legit affair with Edge. So now she's been given an injury storyline that keeps her off the air. MSNBC are the faces working the agitator angle. (If this really was WWE they'd be mega-teasing a full-on Kelly face turn and joining the MSNBC stable)
The only problem with this is that the Marks Think It's All Real!! The death threats, and hate mail that Megyn Kelly has received? That's not part of the booking. Now, not that I think anyone's really going to commit violence over this, but the animus from the Trump fan club is quite real.

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FYI, I can only do Whole Foods' 365 popcorn now since being diagnosed as pre-diabetic. No more of Orville Redenbachers' Slather-It-Yourself Hot Butter popcorn or any of those others!
Which is probably a good thing, I mean, looking at how entertaining this primary season is going, if I was still eating that stuff, I'd probably have a stroke by February!
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Oak Manor Organic Popcorn, here (out of Ontario). Popped in a big covered pan, in coconut oil, topped with melted organic butter and sea salt. Got my braces off Monday, bought the popcorn Tuesday, ate some popcorn Wednesday.
I don't own a microwave, and this place we're renting--I had the landlady remove the microwave the day we moved in. Helped her load it in her car, "Take it away."

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First this:
Now secondly: At the GOP debate last week,

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On “The O’Reilly Factor” Wednesday evening, host Bill O’Reilly welcomed former “Nightline” host Ted Koppel onto the show — but as it turned out, Koppel wasn’t interested in playing the role of a polite guest, especially not on the subject of Donald Trump.
"I’ve interviewed him a number of times,” O’Reilly said, and it’s “not an easy interview. How would you do it?"
"You and I have talked about this general subject many times over the years,” Koppel said. “It’s irrelevant how I would do it."
"You know who made it irrelevant?” he asked. "You did. You have changed the television landscape over the past 20 years. You took it from being objective and dull to subjective and entertaining. And in this current climate, it doesn’t matter what the interviewer asks him — Mr. Trump is gonna say whatever he wants to say, as outrageous as it may be."
 
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^ The feud between Trump and Megyn Kelly serves them both in that both are looking for media attention. (I was completely unaware of Megyn Kelly until who whole Trump controversy.)
I have no idea how Fox's leaders feel about the Trump campaign. At some level, they must realize that he feeds on controversy. If they're trying to undermine his campaign, they are playing right into his hand.
 
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[link inactive:404 - Page not found]Update:
The Murdochs have shed an obstacle to remaking the network.
Roger Ailes, the closest thing in modern U.S. politics to a kingmaker, today stepped down as head of Fox News, the network he founded 20 years ago and turned into a potent political force.
James Murdoch and his brother Lachlan, both named by father Rupert to run parent company 21st Century Fox last year, pushed Ailes out on the heels of a sexual harassment suit that led to more allegations of sexual misconduct from female anchors. The brothers saw the situation as a way to remove a longstanding obstacle to their power within the company.
A lot of the news reports most of the key details were first broken by New York Magazines Gabriel Sherman centered on how the 76-year-old, a lifelong Republican, clashed with the two brothers politically, personally and as an executive. Ailes is known as a venal operator, specializing in deals with questionable reciprocity. His style was completely at odds with James, a data-driven technocrat, and Lachlan, the earnest Murdoch member.
Mostly true. A lesser-known but perhaps more important reason had to do with more practical issues namely, the business of Fox News itself, according to sources.

The average age of Fox News viewers in prime time, the hours that draw the highest ad rates and so are the ones that matter, is 68 a group that advertisers dont pay to reach. In the world of cable news, marketers really only pay for viewers in the 25-54 age range. That means a good chunk of Fox News audience is worth little to nothing.
Fox News still mints money it accounts for as much as 24 percent of the parent companys yearly profit, or more than $1.5 billion but a lot of that comes from licensing fees paid by distributors to carry the network, which are only negotiated every few years. Fox News still leads in total viewership and in prime time, but it cant capitalize on a lot of that audience since advertisers dont pay for a lot of these viewers.
That weighed on the future value of the network, as James saw it, according to one person familiar with the matter, and as much as Ailess style and politics were issues for both brothers, the more pressing concern was managing for the future of the network, this source said.

A great inside look at the palace strife around what to do with Ailes came from Michael Wolff this week, where he outlined Jamess sense of the issue:
"Ailes is 76 and unhealthy, so how much longer could he last anyway?" the younger Murdoch is said to have asked, and to have argued: Since they would lose Ailes soon enough anyway, why not turn lemons into lemonade and get credit for kicking him out for being a sexist pig?
All three Murdochs agreed Ailes had to go, but James was the most vocal, according to one person close to the matter, and as much as it had to do with being a sexist pig, the business of Fox News was the more immediate concern.
James wanted to start remaking the network, knowing Ailes wouldnt or couldnt at a time when fewer people are paying for television, the foundation of its and every other major media companys business, and when younger people are simply flocking online for information.
In many ways, when Ailes first crafted Fox News in 1996, he presaged the modern internet a network rife with invective and commentary, a slow burn of anger at every hour of the day. Fox News won the ratings just a year or so after 9/11, when political discourse was driven by general fear.
With Ailess ouster, the Murdochs have a chance to remake the network not just for younger viewers, but for the internet, which no ones quite figured out, so theyve got some time.
Meanwhile, the person whos temporarily replacing Ailes is none other than Rupert himself, whos now 85.
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CNN's panel at the Republican convention-3 Trump supporters, 2 never Trumpers, 3 Democrats.
CNN's panel at the Democratic convention-8 Hillary supporters and one Trump supporter.
 
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No one should be shocked or outrage by
This is Fox News' MO: their audience eats this stuff up like a panda goes through bamboo. And then, when those snippy liberals hit back at him, he claims he's the victim of "political correctness". Its been working for 20 years, why are they going to stop now?
Look for more of this. Now that it's post convention-time they need to ratchet up the racial animus even more. And in addition they need to draw attention away from the tumult at the top. By keeping their ratings strong and outrage stoked, they can keep the Murdoch sons at bay.
 
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[link inactive:Server error]Greta Van Susteren is leaving the channel. No real explanation, just a simple statement from Fox News.
Not only is she leaving, she's gone. As of, like, right NOW. No farewell week, no look-back-greatest-moments-show or anything. She's just gone.
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^ I'm going to guess no sexual harassment with Greta
Hope she turns-up somewhere.
Before her Fox gig, she was actually a pretty good reporter.
But, I'm sure she has aged-out in today's media environment
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^ I'm going to guess no sexual harassment with Greta
Hope she turns-up somewhere.
Before her Fox gig, she was actually a pretty good reporter.
But, I'm sure she has aged-out in today's media environment
Come back to the Light Side.


"Yes, I have left the Fox News Channel. On Thursday night, I made my decision and informed Fox News of my decision that I was leaving Fox News Channel per my contract. Fox has not felt like home to me for a few years and I took advantage of the clause in my contract which allows me to leave now. The clause had a time limitation, meaning I could not wait. I love my staff, I love my colleagues, and I love the crews. That is the hardest part of this decision as they are wonderful people. And most of all? I love the viewers — even the ones who have gotten mad at me over the years and taken swipes. I hope to continue my career in broadcasting."

This is almost actually, reverse sexual harassment -- She's following the sexual harasser out the door! What's she's talking about in her contract is what's called a "Top Man"-clause in show business. (and make no doubt about it, Cable News is show business) . It's something you usually saw in the music biz, especially in the 70s and 80s with really big stars like Barbara Streisand or Michael Jackson. It means if the top CEO, or president or something like that leaves for whatever reason, your contract instantly becomes null and void, and you can walk out the door.
Artists desire this clause, because a regime change usually means a shift in relationships and a shift in where you are on the totem pole in the company. It means the new people in charge can either reassure you that that they're going to treat you with the same respect as the former CEO did. (read: Ka-CHING) or they're going to let you walk. There's two ways to see this: a) She really wanted to re-negotiate her contract for more $$$ and overplayed her hand, or b) she really just wanted to get the fuck out of there and made unreasonable demands that she knew they would never go for.
If I was a betting man, I'd say b) I've worked in journalism and I know how egos in the business are. She probably never got over being pushed out of prime-time to make way for Megyn Kelly. Even after getting plastic surgery.
Also, she was one of the first to defend Ailes when the sexual harassment charges came up. Maybe she still believes he's innocent. OR....she now sees he's really REALLY guilty and she'd now feel like a idiot returning to Fox.
But I doubt we've seen the last of her; CNN would probably do something with her. She's only 62. That's like being a teenager in the news world. Well it used to be.
We may have changed from the days at like CBS where all the guys from 60 Minutes almost literally died in their 90s at their desks tapping away at their IBM's.
 
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Just in - I'm sitting in my office, my mother is watching Fake News in the den, and I hear one of their talking heads say that Trump shouldn't release his tax returns because no reporter can understand them. So, yes, Fake News is definitely bad for America.
 
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The Daily Show correspondent Ronny Chieng takes O'Reilly and Fox "News" down... big time.

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From Business Insider: "The GOP Must Do Something About The Conservative Media Industrial Complex If It Wants To Survive."
This is an interesting read, but I'm not sure how much I agree with it. On the one hand, their very own Talk Radio Candidate has succeeded in driving down the vote in Texas, Georgia and Utah. Getting to the White House will be hard as long as they stay under the sway of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh.
On the other hand, when Republican candidates -- Paul Le Page being an outlier here -- talk like sane, rational people, they are still odds-on to win in places they should win, which includes the South and West. They still have a congressional majority and same in state legislatures. I'll speak more on the future of the GOP after November 9th, but right now, I just don't feel they're mortally wounded.
 
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WaPo has a similar article:

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^Neech wrote that over 4 years ago.

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i wasnt here 4 years ago. great minds think alike.
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