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Posted - Nov 2 2017 : 7:08AM
^ and ^^
I don't watch Fox on tv, they have become so commercially successful that they have a ton of advertisements. I get most of my news online from a wide variety of sources. Foxnews.com has a relatively new feature that I like, on line streaming of their television feed. The best thing about it is it goes blank during commercials, so when I have work, I put it on in the back ground. I was working Monday a good bit, and I can tell you Manafort was the lead off story every hour that I saw, not second tier, the lead. I never saw the burger clip.
I know I'll never convince any of you that the Uranium One deal is real news and real corruption. A hundred million dollars to the Clinton foundation, millions of dollars to the Clinton campaign, and millions of dollars to other democrat campaigns, in exchange for global uranium mineral rights and production capacity worth billions. Nope, nothing to be concerned about here.
 
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Long Answer:
 
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^ ^^
Yes, of course, pay no attention to the man (or woman) behind the curtain. And certainly never follow the money trail. I mean really, it's only 100 million plus dollars.
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A little amusement is always a nice thing. So Foxnews posted Manafort news as the lead story at the top of the hour. Fox does a food segment, I think normally in the morning show, but not at the top of the hour. So whichever news you were watching chose to hold off their report until Fox was doing the food segment. Now I find that amusing, allowing Fox programming to dictate the time they put on prime news so they can amuse. Hey, to each their own.
 
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Trips, since you failed to provide any links to any reputable sources of the who, what, where, when, how and why, you've left it up to me to research this "100 million" thing. Surprise, it's from the much-debunked book "Clinton Cash", which currently runs second only to the Holy Bible, as far as being the most prized book to Conservatives.*


"...While the connections between the Clinton Foundation and the Russian deal may appear fishy, there was simply no proof of any quid pro quo."
and...
"...Even if you don’t take either Clinton or Fernandez at their word, the reality is that the State Department was just one of nine government agencies that signed off on the transaction."

"The Uranium One deal was not Clinton’s to veto or approve."
Oh, and there's this little minor tidbit as well:
"Despite transfer of ownership, the uranium remained in the U.S."

Lastly, from everyone's
"...in the end, this Russian deal just wasn’t that important and had no national security ramifications."
"....As Jeffrey Lewis, a nuclear nonproliferation expert at the Middlebury Institute, described it, Russia’s purchase of the company 'had as much of an impact on national security as it would have if they set the money on fire. That’s probably why (all the U.S. agencies involved) approved it.'
"As a scandal, this issue lacks relevance since Clinton is now a private citizen and Russian meddling in our 2016 election has become a bigger issue. In fact, all the attention now being paid to the uranium deal seems to have more to do with Robert Mueller’s present investigation of Russian collusion than with Clinton."

*And man!, if Clinton had been elected, The Bible might have had to watch its back....!

 
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Posted - Nov 8 2017 : 2:34PM
You KNOW its a good night when Fox goes dark:
 
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How's that swamp-draining coming along.
 
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Posted - Nov 14 2017 : 1:05AM
Conservative snowflakes are destroying their Kuerig machines because the coffee maker is pulling their ads from Hannity.
Note: Jaguar is also removing ads from Hannity.
 
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Posted - Nov 15 2017 : 4:54PM
I called Trump a dickless bastard and the same goes for Hannity.
11 advertisers dropped his show and so NOW, he's turning on Moore,

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You do realize posts like this have made all these threads meaningless
Events like this have nothing to do with the bias or quality of the reporting of FOX News. Lobbing everything, including the kitchen sink, into all of these threads causes them to become meaningless and destroys any value they may have had.

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Posted - Nov 21 2017 : 12:27PM
Maybe.
But people are expressing their own selves, and posting the things that catch their eye, or that they find important.
If there was some other purpose, I don't know if posting crap on adt really be the way to accomplish it.
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Posted - Nov 21 2017 : 2:14PM
If there is a correlation between reporting and violating the speed limit, please share. Or if there is a correlation between speeding and Fox News being bad for America. However, if speeding is what makes a news station bad, we are going to have threads here for every single one.
Edited by - Flash on 11/21/2017 2:28:43 PM

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Maybe all the reporters are speeding.
It can bookend the thread with all the men molesting women.

 
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Posted - Nov 21 2017 : 2:29PM
So, at this point the purpose is to turn all the threads into nonsense threads I see.

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Posted - Nov 21 2017 : 3:29PM
Well, the fact that it bothers you that someone posted a tweet about a fox newsperson speeding (on a fox news thread) is sort of off-topic.
 
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Except insofar as Fox presents itself as the all-American, law and order, bring back the 1950's news network. Okay, maybe the 1850's, but I digress. If their folks as so dedicated to law and order then why was she breaking the law by speeding?
I suppose you could say that speeding is as American as apple pie, but it is still breaking the law.
(edited 'cause I dropped a word)
Edited by - hardware on 11/21/2017 3:47:13 PM
 
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It is good to know that you are just trolling the threads down here at this point.

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As the article linked in the tweet stated, literally the day before she claims she didn't know she was going 119 mph, she was on FOX News "ripp[ing] the Clintons for feeling above the law. 'I say law and order and truth and justice are the foundations of this Republican,' Pirro said. 'I’m tired of the powerful and the Clintons being above the law — law each and every one of us must follow.'”
I don't quite follow how posting this is not fair comment on someone who presents herself, and is presented by Fox, as some kind of pillar of rectitude and good judgment, or otherwise tends to make the thread "meaningless."

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And I wasn't trolling.
Trolling: to make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
Yep. Not what I was doing.
 
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In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting quarrels or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, smartbuydisc.ru, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement.
You have clearly been trolling my posts but whatever. I have better things to do than to keep feeding you.

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No such intent, not trolling.
Try reading the 'first' post in a soothing tone, as the intention was to soothe.
Try reading the second as humor, as the intention was humor.
The third in a loose, rambly, c'est la vie tone.
The only person who knows my intent is me, and I'm telling you my intent. I can't be responsible for anyone who wants to read whatever I write in a hardened, aggressive, combative tone. There was none on this end.
Read this one in a relaxed, soothing tone, except the second and third sentences of the previous paragraph, which is firm. The first sentence of this post, slight not-overbearing edge of irritation.
 
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Note: my opinion of Fox has changed greatly since the start of this thread.
Earlier on, I said that they're not that bad, they preach to the choir (a very OLD choir). While they traffick in mis-information and mis-education, I did not see them as explicitly "harmful to America"
That is no longer the case. Before, most Republicans above the House level, wanted little to do with Fox News directly. Certainly they appreciated their existence, but they usually -- usually -- wanted to stay two steps removed from Fox' more extreme nonsense.
But all that changed with the candidacy/presidency of Goblin. He does not merely appreciate what they do, he has SIGNED THEM ON TO BE HIS VIRTUAL PRESS SECRETARY. They say something on Fox and Friends and he's retweeting it as policy minutes later .
The biggest danger is how he is weaponizing them against the Mueller investigation. They have gone from propaganda to subverting law and order.
 
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Better to say that Fox News is Trump's chief policy advisor, which is no surprise, since he can't be bothered to learn anything.

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Yep debunked by the same people that tell you to not pay any attention to it. Lol
 
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Posted - Jan 12 2018 : 2:37AM
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Tomayto, Tomahto....

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Posted - Jan 12 2018 : 11:14AM
I figure that when something is debunked, the general advice would be to ignore it.
I mean, once you determine that there is no basement under a pizza parlor, and it thus becomes obvious that nobody is running a sex ring down there, you can pretty much ignore that one (rather than, say, getting a gun and trying to shoot up the place).
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Facts are nothing more than liberal bias.
 
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Posted - Apr 16 2018 : 7:48PM
I didn't feel like bitching about that, because it's a standard for journalism, and fox news isn't news or journalism.

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Rather, I wish they'd stop pretending to be news, and just be the state tv that acts as the propaganda ministry for Trump, as well as feeding crazy shit to Trump, and providing kooky unqualified staff for the White House.
 
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Well they need that legitimacy. It's the same thing about why colleges don't drop the "student-athlete" garbage and just pay their athletes. It's partly money, but an even larger part is the colleges would lose "traditions" and "legacy" etc., etc.
 
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Something I thought I linked to a few months ago, but now, upon review of the thread I guess not.

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I read this today and it gave me a laugh:
“Hannity's audience … seem comfortable with his declaration that he is not a journalist and should not, therefore, be held to journalistic standards”
LOL!
But I have to admit, I didn't know this:
“[Hannity] was an adviser on messaging and strategy during the Trump presidential campaign in 2016"

("...has subsequently dined with the president at both the White House and Trump's privately owned Florida club property Mar-a-Lago”)

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FOX, MSNBC, CNN, etc are not news channels. They are entertainment channels that market to a particular base for maximum ratings and thus maximum advertising revenue. They are there to make money, nothing more.

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Posted - Apr 18 2018 : 4:46PM
I disagree. There's a difference between selective bias, and outright lying.

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^^ Re. Fox News, that may be the case, but - as has been said earlier in this thread - they present themselves as a news service, and their supporters see them as a news service.

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I don't know if you can even call Fox the propaganda network anymore. I see it more like Trump does the bidding of Fox. They're really in charge of the country now.

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Nice little opinion piece I found today. Nothing really new, but still a good summary.
Is Fox news a devious plan to manipulate the masses, or just a way to make lots of money?
Probably both.
/>“ … age-old tactic, used by dictators and despots throughout history: If you want to control the people, stifle the freedom of speech and the press.
The way to get control of the press is to own it, or curry favor with its management. Give it permits and other favors in exchange for sharing the applause of a grateful, if misinformed, populace. It’s called populism, and it’s marketable by politicians and media alike.
Rupert Murdock bought up media companies and uses them to dictate a right wing conservative political slant on coverage….
[…]
It’s about politics, to be sure, but you must follow the money, always.”
 
 

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Yeah, Murdoch uses his media empire to influence politics, but his interest in politics is based on what makes him money.

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^ Yeah, I suppose the question should actually be:
for the sole purpose of manipulating the masses, or - like any scam artists - manipulating people for the purpose of making money?
Edited by - Simple Simon on 4/19/2018 5:37:53 AM

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Hmmm, can't see what that is

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Posted - Apr 21 2018 : 11:51AM
Well, all shows have to decide what to include and what not to include.
Comedies don't put in dead-serious sad stuff. Dramas don't do pratfalls. News shows have to decide whether to do interviews of moms on how they deal with peanut allergies, or stories about pilots who calmly land damaged planes.
Fox was merely amusing and nutty when they spent Obama's first inauguration day broadcasting all day about GW Bush's activities -- boarding a plane, landing in Texas, etc. Really odd, and painting a strange picture of their life in a bubble. Odd, but not lying.
And then there's flat-out lying, which is much more objectionable.
 
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^ I think that was just the stock-standard 'What about Hillary?'
Edited by - Simple Simon on 6/12/2018 5:40:52 AM
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