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^Regardless of the "humor" involved, if you or I were to be caught telling a potential witness or defendant in federal criminal case to destroy evidence, we'd be UNDER the jail.
And need I mention - for the 1 billionth time -- that if that was an MSNBC or CNN host saying that, Hannity would be the FIRST one calling for indictments.
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^ So if you jokingly suggest that someone destroy evidence like their opponent did, you’d be under the jail, but if you actually did it …

“… would eventually delete the archive of Clinton emails and scrub them from the server, knowing full-well the House Committee on Benghazi had requested retention of the information”

 
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^Well yes, you or I might be in need of a plea bargain from prosecutors at that point, sure.

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"... describing Murdoch as having a sensibility that was pure Trump long before Trump.
Trump’s wind-bagging, lie-studded braggadocio is the keynote of his presidency: the “best president ever” with the “biggest inaugural crowd ever”, and on and on and on. The presidential gambit and uber-bragging is seen by many as Trump both overcompensating for his inability to gain acceptance by America’s East Coast elite and taking his revenge on them.
Read enough accounts of Murdoch’s early life and you find repeated suggestions that the media baron’s trickiness and extreme zeal for disruptive power may have its origins in a similar need to impress"
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If that was last night, msnbc absolutely DID cover it. I saw it, and switched to DCI Banks. So I don't know whether they showed every minute of the same routine that Trump's been putting on for years now, but they absolutely, positively covered it.
I didn't watch any CNN, so I can't say whether they did. But fox is wrong, so...
 
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Trump hasn't changed at all. He's still doing the exact same shtick he's done for years. The only thing that's changed is the venue.
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Hmm, Sheppard Smith was just on directly calling Trump a liar on the new 10% tax cuts for the middle class and on several things Trump said about the caravan. I guess I should just ignore him because Fox News is always lying and he must be a shitty reporter.

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Actually, there are only three previous mentions of Smith on World News and Nonsense, all of them positive.
It's not helpful to put words into other people's mouths.
Better to respond to what people actually have said.
[Edited to remove link that just re-sets to the general search page]

Edited by - Pieps on 10/23/2018 6:04:57 PM


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It looks like the link won't go to the search for "Sheppard Smith," so here are the results:
One admiring post:
Two admiring posts:
Three admiring posts:
And ZERO disparaging quotes anywhere from your straw man.

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Pieps, let's not make an argument about everything, you could have simply said there are other positive comments about Shep. I didn't see Shep mentioned in this thread so there was nothing to respond to. I thought it appropriate to post on this thread since there are so many disparaging comments about FOX and I wanted to post something members might find interesting. In any event, I am happy others have seen good in him. I like his show. He does good journalism and speaks his mind. He's on Mon thru Fri from 3 to 4 if anyone is interested in checking him out.
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There are mentions of Shep Smith, Neil Cavuto, and Chris Wallace in the "Karl Rove vs the GOP" Thread.

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I only searched "Sheppard Smith," but there are a lot of results for "Shep Smith." I'm not going to screen them all. I checked only one, and it was positive.

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Wow, he has been referenced a lot. Thanks for sharing that Pieps.
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Sean Hannity and Jeanine Pirro Appeared at a Trump Rally; Fox News Network calls it a "Distraction"
Of course, they're not actually going to fucking DO anything to Hannity or Pirro, and have no doubt they'll be appearing with Trump again at some point.

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"Jeanine Pirro also appeared on the rally stage that night. “Do you like the fact that this man is the tip of the spear that goes out there every day and fights for us?” she said, to cheers.
For all his many faults, Mr. Ailes understood the value of maintaining at least the semblance of separation between the network and the political party he was effectively commandeering from his desk in Manhattan. And he believed he had to protect his stable of news correspondents and producers to give Fox News some credibility beyond the core viewers who tuned in for its opinion hosts."
"These days, it seems, Fox News doesn’t have anyone drawing the line. It has been that way since the departure of Mr. Ailes, "
 
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Well, whadaya want? Fake news -- Cohen, Deutsche Bank, Trump Jr., Trump's tax lawyer, and Putin -- or real news about Rudolph the red nosed reindeer?
 
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"Murdoch’s Fox News has been the great enabler of Donald Trump’s hostile takeover of the modern Republican Party. This has been a long project in the making. But because Fox has been the self-reinforcing echo-chamber of the American far right for 30 years, it has become the principal medium through which each generation of conservatives have outflanked each other by going further and further to the right.
The result is that the Grand Old Party of Lincoln has been ripped from its moorings, with profound consequences for the American democracy at home, and the American-led global order abroad.
We saw it in the 1990s with the highjacking of the Republicans by Newt Gingrich’s “Contract with America”. Then we saw it in the 2000s with Gingrich being outflanked by Paul Ryan’s “Tea Party”. Then the Tea Party was in turn outflanked by the Trump Party. Watching Fox is like watching a revivalist meeting of evangelical fundamentalist preachers seeking to out-compete each other for the affections of “the base”."
"the Murdoch media don’t behave as a news organisation, but as a political party in full pursuit of their commerical and hard-right ideological interests in coalition with the major conservative party of the day. "

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Sean Hannity could care less about his ratings, let alone his audience. He's too busy ingesting Donald Trump's fecal matter to worry about anything else.

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^ I assume your joking. But we need to remember that right wing shock jocks are performers. They don't care if what they say is true or not; they're playing up to an audience.
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For most of 2018, Laura Ingraham was been giving people reasons to not watch her Fox News show. If the fear-mongering on marijuana didn’t turn you off, hearing Ingraham mock the survivors of mass shootings probably did. Or maybe it was that time she compared ICE detention cages to “summer camp” for kids.

In brief, she’s the last place most Americans would go for a cable-news opinion program. But she still had the highest ratings for the 10 p.m. slot in 2018. Even as the majority of her advertisers abandoned her and The Ingraham Angle, she kept a loyal Fox audience.

That’s changed since the start of 2019. Since the new year began, Lawrence O’Donnell’s The Last Word on MSNBC has taken over the top spot in the ratings. In fact, Lawrence beat Ingraham handily in January.

It appears Donald Trump’s rough couple of months boosted MSNBC in prime time from Rachel Maddow through The 11th Hour.'When the January Nielsen ratings landed, the report showed Maddow posting the No. 1 show in cable news and Fox News retaining its spot as the top network. But the shift at 10 o’clock hour largely went unreported.

In 2018, Ingraham had the No. 4 show in cable news behind Sean Hannity, Maddow, and Tucker Carlson. But between the ball dropping on New Year’s Eve and January 27, The Last Word beat Ingraham’s show by an average of 300,000 viewers per night. (Lawrence also won in the key 25-54 demographic.)

For the most recent week (ending February 5), Lawrence again out-performed Ingraham in both total viewers and the 25-54 demo. So far, it looks like nothing less than a takeover in the final hour of prime time.

In the analysis of some, the surge by Lawrence’s Last Word and other MSNBC shows has not been a coincidence; it followed some of Trump’s worst months to date.

 
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If you are in New York City tomorrow and you think that Fox news is bad for America, please express your opinions:
I wish I were there. I can only imagine what advertisers would think if they showed up to see thousands of people surrounding the building, pissed as hell, yelling at the top of their lungs.
 
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Fox News anchor Shannon Bream, who is part of the network’s “news division,” is scheduled to keynote a fundraiser for a conservative group alongside Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

Bream and DeSantis are set to speak at the James Madison Institute’s 2019 annual fundraising dinner on April 3. Tickets for the event start at $150. JMI also stated that sponsors to the event “get access to our VIP reception before the dinner with special guest Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody,” who is a Republican.

JMI is a nonprofit organization that describes itself as “Florida’s premier free-market think tank.” The organization has ties to billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch. In 2016 and 2017, the Charles Koch Foundation gave JMI a combined $392,000 for general operating support.


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Actually a smart move on Ryan's part; I have little doubt he's planning a run in 2024;
 
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One will note the presence there of convicted felon Dinesh D'Souza.

 
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As blue-chip advertisers have abandoned Tucker Carlson's well-rated primetime show, his network has recently opted to keep things in the family, broadcasting a growing and increasingly sizable number of "house ads" for Fox News, Fox Nation, Fox television and Fox Sports programming in recent weeks, according to a Hollywood Reporter review.

In the two weeks leading up to Dec. 13, when Carlson said that immigration makes America "dirtier," Tucker Carlson Tonight averaged 1.33 house ads per show. In the weeks that followed,

Carlson's show lost at least 26 major advertisers, and the show has lost even more sponsors — including the sponsor SHEEX — since Media Matters for America first surfaced inappropriate comments Carlson made on a radio show between 2006 and 2011. Since the progressive advocacy group published the first batch of comments, on March 10, the nine episodes of Tucker Carlson Tonight that have aired have included 6.2 house ads per show. Ads for Fox programming have made up 34.8 percent of the show's advertising spots in that period, compared to just 3.7 percent in the period leading up to his December comment about immigration.

Overall, Carlson's ad load has fallen from about 36 per show to about 18 per show.

Carlson's sponsor base now consists of few, if any, major brands, led by direct-response advertisers MyPillow, MyPhoto, ReputationDefender, gutter protection product Leaf Filter, moving and storage company PODS, mattress company Purple and cardiovascular health device Zona Plus.

"We support all of our sponsors and they know the value of the audience," Fox News president of ad sales Marianne Gambelli said in a statement to THR.

While the network has indicated that it expects Carlson's once-major corporate advertisers to return to his show, that has not happened. Pacific Life Insurance, the first brand to pull out of Carlson's show, confirmed to THR that it will not return to the show, after originally saying that it would take a few weeks to "re-evaluate" the advertising relationship.

"We do not have any plans to advertise with the program," a spokesperson for the company said this week.

The network can rely on the support of advertisers like MyPillow, which is run by Mike Lindell, a Trump supporter who told THR last month that ad boycotts are "horrific" and "the worst thing ever."

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Sky News Australia is the Aussie equivalent of Fox News America.

 
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Why? He was Romney's version of Palin.
 
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^He's always had a hyper-inflated view of himself though.


Besides, with the way the party is now, why NOT roll the dice? You're guaranteed a certain number of states regardless of how good/bad a candidate you are.


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I agree with my late brother, who, though he was a highly paid I.T. Vice-President of the very Republican, Goldman Sachs, investment bank, still maintained, until his death, that he felt that Fox News was treasonous because of the extent to which he was seeing Fox regularly functioning as a misinformation service, employing propaganda to advance the interests of the top 1%. Brian always said that even more than it being pro-Republican, Fox was fighting for (and still is) the tilting of the balance in America to give the richest 1%, more and more influence in shifting public policy toward ever more beneficial outcomes for that 1%.

Brian used to laugh at the common Right Wing talking point that the very wealthy NEED more tax cuts because "they are the job creators". But as my brother liked to point out, most wealthy people don't hire any more people as a result of receiving a tax cut, but merely put the extra money into trust funds for their children or grandchildren, with America's economy not being aided by those funds sitting there. In my brother's case, the only people he ever employed were 2 men who came to his house, about once a week in spring, summer, & fall, for roughly 2 hours each week, to care for the lawn, trim some bushes, and dispose of leaves.

And since wealthy folks like my brother (who fully paid the price for each new Lexus in cash) basically already have the material things they want, those folks simply don't have the need to help the economy by spending the extra money which a tax cut provides.

So money from any tax cuts that my brother received, went right into trust funds for his kids and grandkids, keeping the funds out of the economic mainstream.

Every non-partisan economist will tell you that increasing the minimum wage will give a substantially LARGER BOOST to the economy than cutting taxes for the rich, because low income workers WILL SPEND the extra money on things that they need, or want, for themselves and their children.

But the financial "Experts" on Fox News, always look for ANY OBJECTION that they can come up with, or that they can INVENT, in order to OPPOSE minimum wage increases, while those SAME supposed Fox News financial "Experts", are always STRONGLY in favor of more TAX CUTS for the very wealthy.

How tragic, it rarely occurs to blue collar folks in Fox's audience, that LIKE Trump, Fox is DEFINITELY NOT on the side of average income, or low income, workers.

HOWEVER, in spite of my strong criticism of Fox News, even if government policy makers in our country had the authority to halt telecasting of Fox News, as some in New Zealand want done, I'd OPPOSE such a move, because Right Wingers would just turn the defunct Fox News into a type of martyr that would be an EVEN MORE EFFECTIVE club with which to hit progressives over the head, than the damage that Fox News currently causes to us. I'd rather see moderate and liberal minded people engaged in highlighting the LIES that Fox pumps out, than trying to fight the ghost of a news channel that no longer broadcasts. Because knocking Fox off of TV wouldn't really kill it, but actually, would allow the Right to turn it into a mourned for LEGEND. Then people on the Right could FALSELY CLAIM that Fox, while it had been broadcasting, had accomplished all sorts of wonderful things.


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First Amendment.

In this country you can say untrue things, even absurd things, and broadcast them.

It's not 'news' over there on fox, but whatever.

 
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^

Their fact-checkers have a different set of instructions than the ones actual news channels operate by.

 
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Someone at Fox -- or in Dear Leader's White House -- thought it would be awesome for their assigned reporter to wear a "bulletproof vest" on camera to illustrate just how
doggoned dangerous the Brown hordes at the border are. I put "bulletproof vest" in quotes because its not really a Kevlar vest. It's an infantryman's tac vest. It's just for carrying things. It won't stop a bullet. It won't stop a spitball. But most of the rubes who watch Fox won't know that.


 
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Former Fox News reporter Carl Cameron said Monday that he left the network favored by conservatives because "right-wing hosts drowned out straight journalism with partisan misinformation."[/url]

Cameron made the remarks in a promotional video about why he joined Front Page Live, a website whose goal is, in part, to serve as an antidote to the conservative Drudge Report.

"What’s a former Fox guy doing here on Front Page Live partnering with progressives?" Cameron, who worked at Fox News for more than two decades, said in the video. "Well, it’s about facts, not partisanship."

Cameron, now Front Page Live's chief political correspondent, said he joined Fox News in its early days because the "idea of fair and balanced news appealed to me."

"But over the years, the right-wing hosts drowned out straight journalism with partisan misinformation. I left," he added before noting that he has "unique insight and understanding of how the right operates and literally 30 years of covering Donald Trump."

 
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Part and parcel with that, Greg Gutfeld, for at least the 2nd time, admits that

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After reliable Trump booster Jesse Watters hailed the president for his meeting with Kim — calling it “a very powerful and important moment” — Gutfeld, only a slightly less reliable Trump booster, commented on criticism of the meeting by 2020 Democrats.

“Of course they are going to attack him,” Gutfeld said. “That’s what you would do. And let’s be honest. If it were an adversary from your party, on the other side doing it, we would do the same thing.”

“How dare Obama meet with a dictator with no preconditions!” Watters joked.

“Exactly,” Gutfeld said.

“In ’07,” The Five host Dana Perino said.

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Tuesday was an especially ugly day for Fox News.

It began with revelations that host Sean Hannity helped spread Russian propaganda about Seth Rich’s murder. It ended with an astoundingly racist attack on Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) by host Tucker Carlson. In between, hosts slut-shamed sexual assault accusers and spread misinformation about former President Barack Obama. Put everything together and it encapsulated all the channel’s worst impulses.

Take Carlson’s increasingly aggressive attacks against Trump administration adversaries, which culminated with his xenophobic indictment of Omar, a Somali refugee and one of the first Muslim women to serve in Congress: He attacked her as “living proof that the way we practice immigration has become dangerous to this country.”

And yet through it all, President Donald Trump continued to amplify the network’s content on Twitter, illustrating how far off the rails both the president and the cable news network he can’t stop watching — the top-rated one in the country — have gone.
Hannity got played by Russian propagandists


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