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By MAUREEN DOWD
April 10, 2012
Washington
Hillary is not going to President Obama’s Democratic convention in Charlotte. Evidently, she’s going to wait for her own.
There were intriguing developments on the presidential trail Tuesday, and I don’t mean Rick Santorum dropping out.
Hillary Clinton cemented her newly cool image and set off fresh chatter about her future when she met at the State Department with two young men who created showing photos of the secretary of state on a military plane, wearing big sunglasses, checking her BlackBerry and looking as if she’s ready to ice somebody.
The pictures, as Raymond Chandler would say, make Hillary look “as inconspicuous as a tarantula on a slice of angel food.”
The meme, which exploded on Tumblr, Facebook and Twitter, was dreamed up last Wednesday by Hillary fans Adam Smith and Stacy Lambe, communications specialists here in Washington, at the gay sports bar Nellie’s.
It features invented tongue-in-cheek texts between the don’t-mess-with-me Hillary in dark shades and other famous people pictured on their gadgets.
When Mitt Romney texts “Any advice?” to Hillary, she replies: “Drink.” She rejects a “friend” request from Mark Zuckerberg, cuts off Joe Biden when he tries to tell a bar joke, instructs a cooing Ryan Gosling to call her “Madam Secretary,” blows off Jon Stewart by saying she’s already booked on Colbert, and wields a put-down from “The Devil Wears Prada” on Anna Wintour.
When the president asks, “Hey Hil, Whatchu doing?” she ripostes: “Running the world.” And when a young woman texts, “It’s 3 am and I think something’s happening,” Hillary snaps: “On it.”
I asked the dazzling Diana Walker — the Time magazine photographer who took one of the totemic pictures of Hillary on a C-17 flight last fall from Malta to Tripoli for a cover story on “Hillary and the Rise of Smart Power” — what made her black-and-white shot such a sensation.
“I don’t think she was meaning to be cool,” Walker said. “She just reached in her bag to get some glasses to read her BlackBerry before the plane took off for Tripoli.”
Walker told me she got a letter from a young woman, a friend of her son’s, who said she stared at the image for a long time. “It truly sent chills down my spine,” the woman wrote, “and I immediately shared it with my daughter because of the power it portrayed.”
With women under attack, that sense of serene toughness has strong appeal.
The Hillary flurry is telling.
During the 2008 Democratic primary, Barack Obama had a lock on young people, technology chic and the press. Hillary was regarded by kids as the lady who’d been around a long time, wearing headbands and pantsuits. She had a paranoid relationship with the press and an antiquated take on technology.
Now she’s quick to laugh at herself and take advantage of the positive buzz, even posting her own captions with trendy argot on the “Texts From Hillary” site.
As Jonathan Darman, who covered Hillary’s campaign for Newsweek, noted: “The speed with which she’s embraced it suggests something has really changed in her. If this were 2008, the conversation around her would have been: 1) What is Tumblr? 2) What is Facebook? and 3) How do we get them to take down the Tumblr and/or how do we destroy Facebook?”
Hillary has a history of being more popular when she seems less in control. The Monica fiasco made her such a sympathetic figure that she glided into a Senate seat. Losing to Obama and becoming his hard-working subordinate has, at times, won her higher approval ratings than the president.
So now that she seems ready to leave the stage at 64 and take a deserved nap, she is at her least polarizing.
Her savvy public image gambit on Tuesday sent a signal she may not be leaving the stage forever. She has not only shored up her techie cred and popularity with young people. Hillary, who kept the press at a distance in 2008, is now well-liked by the press corps traveling with her around the world. Unlike Obama, she seems to enjoy going out with reporters and having a cocktail after a hard day of trilats.
In another sign she’s in vogue, she’s the model for a character, Elaine Barrish Hammond, a defeated presidential contender and divorced former first lady who becomes secretary of state, in a new TV show called “Political Animals” scheduled to air this summer on the USA Network. Hillary will be conjured up by Sigourney Weaver, wearing a ruby-red pantsuit in the first scene and described in the script this way: “Even in the pantsuit she’s breathtaking. Brilliant and indefatigable — Elaine is a force and a beauty. ... she has a regal countenance. If America had a queen, it would be Elaine.”
 
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I asked the dazzling Diana Walker - stopped reading right there. Had to get a towel to wipe off after all that gushing.
 
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Far be it from me to correct Dowd, (author of the great book "Bushworld") But a secretary of state usually does not attend political conventions. And I don't remember one from recent history who has spoken at one (Repub or Dem), while serving in that capacity. I could be wrong, but most cabinet positions such as that feel they should be above the politics.

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I think Hillary is the best thing going for Ds in 2016 at the moment, but who knows that’s a long way off to be forecasting.
The Ds could have another rising star to materialize, again it is four years away, Hillary may also be burned out in 2016 and not interested, there are a million possibilities.
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For those who didn't know or have forgotten, Weiner's hottie wife, , is a deputy chief of staff and aide to US Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton. She served as traveling chief of staff and "body woman" for Clinton during Clinton's campaign for the Democratic nomination in the 2008 presidential election.
Adds an extra level of wit to the whole "Hillary-on-the-Blackberry-being-cool" meme linked to in my opening post :)
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Hillary must be serious.
Here she is practicing for her "eating-the-corndog" moment for the Iowa 2016 State Fair.
(She's no Michelle Bachmann.)
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^I will do everything I can to make his nomination a possibility.

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And the rest of you should do the same for [link inactive:Server error]Fmr. Senator Rick Santorum (No, that isn't the childish Google link). It's Senator Santorum, already giving a TV interview, and he's not being coy about his plans for four years from now.
 
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By FRANK BRUNI
September 8, 2012
Charlotte, N.C.
AT their party’s ebullient convention last week, the Democratic politicians with an eye on the 2016 presidential contest were out in full force and almost in full stride, never mind that 2012 has yet to be settled.
Martin O’Malley, the Maryland governor, popped up here, there and everywhere. Mark Warner, the Virginia senator, was nearly as ubiquitous. And Joe Biden made the fiery most of a prime speaking slot just before President Obama’s.
But all of them knew that their efforts would probably be for naught and their aspirations in vain if a certain someone who was then half a world away decided to reach — again — for the White House. Like a poltergeist in a pantsuit, Hillary Clinton haunted Charlotte.
She was the grand phantom of the 2012 political conventions, but not the only one. Both the Republican gathering in Tampa and the Democratic conclave here were almost as fascinating for what and who were missing as for what and who were present: for the appearances that didn’t happen or that occurred only briefly or belatedly.
The Democrats lacked not only Hillary but also, in the beginning, God. To some party stalwarts that’s probably a statement of the utmost redundancy. Hillary is God, or at least a holy ghost.
Will she run in 2016? I can’t tell you how many times I heard that question and how largely it loomed in Charlotte. There’s a strong belief that she’s seriously considering one last bid, and a fervent wish that the Hillary saga not yet be over, because it’s as riveting as any in the last quarter-century of American politics.
The video that was shown just before Bill Clinton delivered his speech on Wednesday night reminded delegates and the rest of us of the Clintons’ epoch in the White House, years of serial scandals and provisional hairstyles. It reminded us, too, that for Hillary, a setback is merely a prelude to redemption, a warm-up for the last laugh. She’s the comeback kid.
From Hillarycare, Whitewater, Travelgate, Monica Lewinsky and the bruising presidential primaries in 2008, she rebounded to where she is today, a Democratic deity so revered that the 2016 nomination is presumed hers if she wants it. It’s seen almost as a matter of destiny, a piece of unfinished business. The party realized one kind of history with Obama’s election and would love to realize another with Hillary’s. It’s time for a woman. It’s long past time.

This particular woman’s absence from Charlotte wasn’t a clue to her intentions, a tea leaf to be read. Her day job, as secretary of state, had her in Asia. And a picture of her in East Timor, watching Bill’s speech, circulated quickly and spoke to why there’s such fascination with her these days. In the photograph she sat alone and at peace, attentive but not beholden to the human comet who took her on such a wild ride. She was now traveling through a separate cosmos, blazing an independent trail, lighting up the sky on her own.
Other absences were indeed freighted with tactical significance. They underscored how little it benefits some Democrats to go near a party platform with many planks to the left of the center, and they suggested how unpopular the party or the president is in certain states. Senator Jon Tester, fighting a tough re-election battle in Montana, skipped Charlotte. So did a remarkably long list of other Democrats in similarly fierce fights: Claire McCaskill, who stayed put in Missouri; Bob Kerrey, who didn’t leave Nebraska; Heidi Heitkamp, who campaigned in North Dakota; and Joe Donnelly, who did likewise in Indiana.
DEMOCRATS are on tenterhooks about the preservation of their Senate majority, which may help explain another convention phantom: gun control, the issue they feel they mustn’t touch. After a summer of bullets and despite a poignant appearance onstage by Gabby Giffords, Obama ignored it, other headliners avoided it and our Glock-toting country went about its merry and murderous way, with a shooting spree every few months and a failure of resolve to do anything about it.
Before Charlotte I was in Tampa, and there were a few moments between Paul Ryan’s and Mitt Romney’s speeches when I blinked. Hence I missed Scott Brown, the Republican senator from Massachusetts.
What an intriguing predicament he’s in. The only way he beats Elizabeth Warren, his Democratic rival, and wins re-election is to persuade his state’s voters that the “R” attached to his name is purely decorative, like the hood ornaments on a couple of old Cadillacs. So he stayed in Tampa about as long as the chardonnay in a Real Housewife’s glass lasts, and managed in his ultra-brief remarks to reporters to work in the words “moderate” and “pro-choice.” After he was spotted with Karl Rove, an aide made sure to characterize the meeting as accidental.
But the only way Brown converts a victory over Warren into, say, a run for national office — and I guarantee you, given his age (52) and his looks, that the thought has lodged deep in his mind — is a renunciation of that vaunted moderation. A renunciation of Massachusetts, really. You can see where I’m going with this. He’s Romney redux. Déjà Mitt.
Speaking of flashbacks and memories, one in particular was frowned on in Tampa. Delegates were dissuaded from déjà George.
I refer to the second President Bush, who appeared with his father in a video of just five minutes one night. That was it, and that said it all. Romney, Ryan and other Republicans are running as stewards of the country’s finances more trustworthy and less profligate than Obama, but Bush busted the budget and ran up the debt with his tax cuts, his expansion of entitlements, his wars. And Ryan abetted him every step of the way.
Is it any wonder that he wasn’t produced in the flesh and given free rhetorical rein, as Bill Clinton was? That his brother Jeb was welcomed onto the stage even as he came nowhere near it?
Republicans want you to look at the country’s woes and see only Obama. Democrats want to prevent that, and this election may hinge on what is and isn’t tugged out of the shadows. As surely as the specter of Hillary hovers over 2016, the apparition of the last president stalks 2012. And there’s no telling yet how these two great ghost stories end.

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If Obama is re-elected this year, then the Democratic nominee for 2016 will probably be Joe Biden, unless he decides not to run. This is because the vice-president to the last outgoing two-term president is traditionally the nominee for his party. Atleast that's the way it's always been for almost the past century.
On the Republican side, I predict Scott Walker or Marco Rubio. In 2016, the GOP will have probably learned its lesson and put forth candidates who might actually win.
I would also say Paul Ryan, who I thought would be a good presidential contender this year for the GOP. If he and Romney switched places on the ballot, then I think they'd have a much stronger shot of winning this year. Ryan would have been a much stronger candidate than Romney. If they lose the election this year, then I think Ryan might be taken less seriously if he decides to run in 2016.
 
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He just doesn't seem like presidential material or have presidential hair.
 
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2008 of course, being the exception to the rule.
On inauguration day Jan 20th 2017, Biden will be 75 years old. I strongly doubt he will actually run for the nomination, and also word is his wife is ready to call it a day and retire from public service.

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^Dick Cheney decided not to run in 2008. But yes, you're right. It does also help if the Vice-President isn't widely detested as one of the most evil men in America.
As far as age is concerned, I don't think that should be an issue. I know others may disagree. But I just think it's silly to use someone's age against him. This was one of the things that I hated about the 2008 election when people kept picking on John McCain by calling him "too old." It was just a really immature insult. If you're going to criticize a candidate, then do it on the issues, not on his age. Picking on him because of his age just made it look like they couldn't find anything else to criticize him about.

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Ass juice needs to realize that most Americans think extreme social conservatives are dumb. Nobody wants him to be President except for the special ed religious inbreds.
 
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Maybe maybe not...
But I'm looking purely at trends; since Bill Clinton was elected the first Boomer president, we as a country have not elected anyone over the age of 55. Bob Dole and McCain fared pretty horribly. So it would seem that we as a country, regardless of political stripe, would rather see a relatively young person in the WH. Something for Biden and Hilary Clinton both to think twice about 2016.

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I can't imagine a Biden bid going anywhere. Frankly I'm surprised that they didn't try to get him to call it quits after one VP term so that they could put Hillary on the ticket. Maybe they did. Or maybe she wasn't interested.
And Palin will be hawking cubic zirconia on QVC in 2016. If she's lucky.
 
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Nah. Changing running mates is usually not taken as anything but a sign of panic.
Nixon had no choice but to dump Spiro Agnew, but hell, he had already won re-election.
 
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In light of Mitt's sagging poll numbers, Republicans are panicking:
And Rush Limbaugh:
I bring this up here, because I wonder. If Mitt Romney loses in November, what in the devil will the Republican Party look like in 2016?? First of all, after the election, there will be much hand-wringing and more reverse-Trotsky-ism. ("The Soviet Union failed because they did not practice true communism!).
I feel that, at the heart of all this is Reagan's two elections, especially the 1984 mega-landslide. Both elections -- to conservatives -- stand as an utter repudiation of Liberalism and Big Government and an embrace of God, Guns and Supply-Side.
Since then, they have never failed to preach the mantra that True Conservatism will always win out. When a Republican loses, what does it mean? The candidate was impure. George H. W. Bush, Bob Dole, John McCain and (in retrospect) George W. Bush were all heretics, betraying the basic tenets of Conservatism. And Mitt Romney has been disliked by the conservative intelligentsia since forever.
So in 2016, we may well see a Republican party that pushes the extremes like never before.

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Posted - Sep 13 2012 : 5:58PM
^^Nixon didn't dump Agnew, they ran together in '68 and '72.
But as Agnew entered a second term as Nixon's VP, the court litigating his multiple bribery cases would only accept a plea of "no contest" if he agreed to step down from the office of Vice President.
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Well that's what I meant to stay. Nixon didn't have a choice in the matter, so he dropped him but he had already won re-election so it didn't affect him politically.
That whole post came out mangled. I thought I linked to this post here about the history of alleged Sitting VP changes. They just don't happen, except for Nixon/Agnew and Gerald Ford and Rockefeller who chose not to be Ford's running mate in 1976. And then there was Thomas Eagleton being dropped from the McGovern ticket in 1972, but hell, McGovern was probably doomed from the get-go.
Otherwise, changing a VP in an election year is something that just isn't helpful.

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I wasn't suggesting dumping him; just seeing if he might not want to just retire after one term. The guy has to know he's risen as far as he's going to in politics, and I imagine he's pretty well set up, pension-wise, since he was in the Senate forever. (Plus his wife actually has a paying job.) Why anyone who's pushing 70 still wants to work is beyond me.
 
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Even if he retires, there would still be speculation about "was he pushed out"?? (Unless there's a medical reason for it)
And if it was Hilary who was chosen for the VP spot, OMG the internets would go crazy.
And retirement just doesn't seem like him. Even at 69 he's still got a lot of energy. When he leaves the White House it's doubtful he'll just shut down; he'll probably start doing some sort of public advocacy thing in DC.
And there are a LOT of old guys and gals in the Senate: If Biden was still in, he'd still only be the 27 or 28th oldest member. Hawaii Sens. (Akaka and Inouye) and Frank Lautenberg (NJ) are all 82 years old. Akaka is retiring though.
(Can't blame him -- as to your point, if you're from Hawaii, who wouldn't rather be lying on the beach in their 80s rather than working here in Washington with these crappy summers and winters??)

 
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Zarina, that was a really interesting article. I'm posting the next portion below:

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Ahem.
So now that we've established that his advice and counsel is total shit, the question is how big of a pile?
Well, it's a small pile, except the examples are totally amiss: "irrepressible conflict between the Jeb Bush Republicans and the Paul Ryan Republicans"

[link inactive:404 - Page not found]Mitch Daniels, <bJeb Bush</b, John Boehner, Jim Jordan, and Bill Bennett encourage Ryan to run for president.
And even after the conservative class had our collective eye roll over his "Reagan couldn't be a Republican today" comments, he actually clarified that he adores Paul Ryan's budget and he hates how Congress wakes up at 9:00am thinking 'how can we fight today?'
So Shrum focuses on "immigration." Clearly, . I just don't see quite the conflict. The masses of ignorance might have some firepower - Palin. But if it's between Bush, Rubio, and Ryan...no one loses...and Hillary still wins.

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In 2008 Dick Cheney didn't run because there was a good chance he would not survive to serve his full term. Dick has has a heart transplant and been hooked up to an artificial heart since 2008, he had more important things to worry about than the Presidency IMO.
 
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That's the reason he didn't run?
The fact that, at the end of Bush-Cheney's 2nd term, Cheney's approval ratings were less than 30 percent, and he couldn't have been elected dog-catcher, had nothing to do with his decision not to run?
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I could see the heart thing being an issue for him. Just take a look from pictures of Obama in 2008 or Bush in 2000 and contrast them to pictures of Obama now or Bush in 2008 and you can see what the stress of the job does to you. That being said in 2008 the power brokers in the Republican Party would have been more optimistic about their chances if David Duke had won the nomination than they would have if Cheney had won it.
 
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Why would Dick Cheney want to be president for a third term??

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Still, I think if he had not had his heart health issues he could have won the Presidency. I certainly would have voted for him. McCain shot himself in the foot when he picked Sarah Palin and let her open her mouth, if he had picked someone palatable for VP he would be President right now. Obama is a joke and I knew that four years ago (him pulling out of Iraq and leaving its residents to fend for themselves and be taken over by Al Quida proved that). I may not agree with the Republican platform on obscenity (I don't think Cheney did either) but we would be more secure militarily (and the Libyan Ambassador would not have died) if a healthy Dick Cheney were President. Speaking of Libya, a good President would have invaded and took over as soon as our embassy was firebombed!
Hopefully we have a better choice in 2016 than we do now. Romney and Ryan are crackpots and Obama is the biggest joke of a President we have ever had. I am seriously considering voting third-party for President in this election.

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The timetable to withdraw U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2011 was determined by Cheney, GWB and the Bush Administration in in the fall of 2008.
 
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: Maybe we should just invade every country? I think we'll be secure that way. Pulling out of Iraq? Fuck that shit. We should have stayed there forever and made Iraq the 51st state.
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Please do.
 
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Cody McLarge said: From the Hurricane Sandy Thread:
Chris Christie, still going, but visibly exhuasted finds Fox and Friends's Steve Doocy a target:
I didn't want to derail the Sandy thread so I moved this here.
Chris Christie is NOT going to be the Republican Nominee in 2016. I'm calling it now. Doocy is nothing more than a gnat, but he is symobolic of the entire New Age Conservtism of the Murdoch Era. If Christie is not going to kowtow to these guys, then he's got a problem. If he's not ready to bring up presidential politics and slam Obama -- on the channel that is about nothing but slamming Obama -- just because of some itty bitty falling water then by their standards, he's not ready to carry the flag in 2016.
Hell his now-epic
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I take the exact opposite view. Christie was all about actual leadership today, basically telling Fox to fuck off I've got more important stuff to do. Shows his priorities are actually getting what needs to get done done first and being a politician second. He also had no problems admitting to being in conversation with Obama over this and not using that as an opportunity to get a jab in at Obama. The message it sends to me is that he is interested in getting things done and he doesn't give a shit how his image is affected by doing what he needs to do. If that pisses off the Democrats he doesn't care. If that pisses off the Republicans he doesn't care. We need more politicians like this.
 
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Not disagreeing with you.
Just saying, he has offended the Conservative Gods by praising Obama and FEMA's work in these last few days.
 
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This map holds some definite flash points for the GOP: States that are "weak" Republican this cycle - Georgia, South Carolina, Arizona, Missouri -- could join Ohio, Virginia, and Florida in the Purple Category in 2016. If I was a Democratic strategist, I'd be working on Georgia starting November 7th. It's the second biggest Republican State EV-wise. Snatch that away, and Repubs are in deep doo doo.
Of course....if I was a Democratic strategist, I'd have recommended nominating John Edwards in 2008, so fuck do I know...

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No. It looks to me like he's pissed off know-nothings in the conservative blog world. We may hear from Erick Erickson, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, etc. over such "over the top praise for the Golfer in Chief" (I'd put more money on them playing up Krauthammer's assessment that this "photo op" stands in contrast to Benghazi because Chicago realizes campaigning the day after Chris Stevens was murdered is now backfiring) but I doubt it. Christie had a direct request, the president obliged, and now Craig Fugate, the Director of FEMA, who cut his chops under "Governor Hurricane", Jeb Bush, is in New Jersey getting assets wherever Christie asks. To call that anything other than "an outstanding response" would be incorrect, says the governor's office. They're probably right, plus if they want more help, a little praise for the president now might go a long way.
A more cynical interpretation is that Chris Christie is giving us a preview of his 2013 reelection campaign, but it's probably the most incorrect that it would have anything to do with "sabotaging" Romney and setting the stage for a 2016 run. To analyze how it might play in one, however, is plenty reasonable but way premature.

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Speaking of Hitlary, we just might as well had elected her. Her "healthcare plan" was exactly the same as Obama's is (now) and Obama isn't acting like he knows how it feels to be a minority of any kind.
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How does appearing on "Fox and Friends" constitute "more important stuff do to" and "actually getting what needs to get done done"?

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Posted - Oct 30 2012 : 4:54PM
He was on every morning show to offer public praise for the effort in Washington and Trenton, as well as call for any outside help, and update "the nation" on the devastation, management, and relief efforts.

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Real news. Fake president.
13914 Posts
3/03
Posted - Oct 30 2012 : 6:46PM
His state was hit by the biggest storm anybody has ever seen just hours ago. He should be working, not running around trying to get his big fat face in front of every TV camera on the east coast.

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7415 Posts
8/10
Posted - Oct 30 2012 : 7:02PM
^Bloomberg said he's the face of the emergency response.

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“Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” - Kierkegaard
7236 Posts
8/09
Posted - Oct 30 2012 : 7:10PM
I totally see Hilary Clinton running and doing good. Especially if she doesn't deviate from Bill Clinton's policies and philosophies (cutting deficit, creating surplus, cutting ineffective programs...).
 
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13923 Posts
1/08
Posted - Oct 31 2012 : 12:25AM
Yesh.
I don't fault Christie or Bloomberg for a minute for appearing on TV. Look, this is the kind of thing that's expected from governors in times of crisis. They should be appearing and be giving updates on what's happening. Yes, they have people in their cabinets who's jobs are directly about this sort of thing -- but what can I say, that's how politics rolls nowadays.
For better or for worse, the executive in charge is expected to be the face of things.
 
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13923 Posts
1/08
Posted - Nov 4 2012 : 1:48AM

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And then there was Rush Limbaugh, Republican Party Boss:
LOL. Wasn't it just yesterday that people were saying that they loved Christie's "In Your Face" attitude? That a "straight-talker" like him was exactly the antidote needed combat Obama? And now, they're trying to crack the whip and make him submit like when Sting has a guy in his Scorpion Deathlock.
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C'mon Scott, where's the rest of my Hello Kitty collection???
They're trying to break him like a wild stallion. Is he still the Republican Superman? Perhaps, but they want him to Kneel Before Zod anyway.
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"You say that like It's an unreasonable request."
Chris Christie, love him or hate him, is nobody's bitch, plain and simple. For the life of me, I just don't see how that was going to ever work out. First of all, CC is not the kind of guy who, after being governor, would be content to be someone else's #2. Especially not to someone like Romney who is CC's polar opposite. Romney is willing to change his platforms as often as Lady Gaga changes underwear, and CC is a "if you don't like my shit, then beat it outta me" type.
But the broader story is that CC is simply not a part of the Post-Newt Republican Party. He's a Yankee, non-WASP, non-Protestant, and he's not going to transform into a NRA-loving, Ayn-Randian-worshipping type of guy just to please the Fox crowd.
 
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13923 Posts
1/08
Posted - Nov 4 2012 : 1:58AM

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You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Beale, and I won't have it!! Is that clear?!

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7535 Posts
12/09
Posted - Nov 6 2012 : 11:30PM
Joe Biden, Hillary, and everyone else I can think of will be too old.
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