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Posted - Jan 3 2019 : 11:37AM
This is the official pro-Trump WN&N thread. This thread is for pro-Trump views and conversation. Please don't sabotage it by filling the thread with useless posts designed to counter-act the thread.
As always, be respectful of your fellow members here with your responses. People of different political ideologies can have substantive conversations without the need of insults. If you need, the smartbuydisc.ru etiquette is available here to review.
(Note: The creation of this thread doesn't necessarily reflect any endorsement or lack of endorsement of Trump.)

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I am very glad the Trump administration is moving to ban bump stocks.

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Posted - Feb 20 2019 : 7:46PM
^Scratch what I posted earlier:
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Posted - Feb 28 2019 : 6:51AM
No real revelations today.

"The hearing was explosive as a form of political theatre, but mostly fizzled when it came to unearthing new facts. This was largely the fault of Democrats on the committee, whose questioning proved unfocused and ineffective.

In fact, many of the day's key revelations aided rather than undermined Trump."


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Posted - Mar 25 2019 : 3:06AM



“Mueller's verdict that there was no collusion between Donald Trump's campaign and Russia has delivered the US President one of the best days of his presidency.

Mueller's central finding is devastating news for American progressives, many of whom became overly invested in the idea that Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin worked together to steal the 2016 US election.”

“The mainstream media will also face tough questions about whether they misled their viewers by over-hyping the idea of collusion.”

From the comments
“Jack speaking from Tokyo
Over is over. This report and egg on the face of the Dems and the Media will get Trump re-elected in 2020. Best news ever! Beautiful day.

“The Firefighter of Bondi
On the ABC this morning, "but, but, but" when it came to this whole debacle that has been duck shoved down everyones throats by the Left since "their" girl Hilary didn't get elected. For almost 3 years all I've been hearing is the by-line, "possible Russian collusion" as if it was the precursor of an inevitable declaration that Russia and Trump were really the same thing.

… as if personal opinion and want superseded actual events and facts. The media have to stop doing this, opinions are not facts, personal want or philosophy is not the political reality. Terms such as "voters waiting with baseball bats" for the next election maybe what certain journalists and keyboard warriors wish for, but as for reality, is somewhat delusional.”

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There were tears and histrionics from some MSNBC commentators as their woke world imploded, yet again.


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Posted - Mar 25 2019 : 3:08AM

“One of the most shameful chapters of American political history ended Sunday – not with a bang, but with stunned silence over the realization that Americans have been fed an utter lie for nearly two years.

A letter to members of Congress by Attorney General William Barr summarizing Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report is out. It shows not a scintilla of evidence for the Trump-Russia “collusion” hoax that biased journalists and sore-loser politicians have spent countless hours and reams of print and TV time promoting. In fact, it reveals quite the opposite.”

“The only thing left for serious people to consider is just how deep the misconduct, bias, and, yes, “collusion” went among those responsible for pushing this hoax.”

“We knew that Andrew McCabe, the then-FBI deputy director with an axe to grind against Donald Trump, was colluding with the press to leak information and exaggerate the legitimacy of applications for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) surveillance warrants on Trump associates.”

“we knew that the same people pushing the investigation of Donald Trump decided to let Hillary Clinton off the hook for likely criminal conduct on the flimsiest of justifications.”


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Posted - Mar 25 2019 : 12:04PM
I didn't recognize the name of so I wanted to look and see who was mischaracterizing the results of the Mueller investigation. Oh, a fox 'news' conspiracy theorist.

And actually, a lot of people are mischaracterizing the results, most having not seen the actual report. I still look forward to seeing the report.

I think that it shows first, that Mueller has the integrity we always credited him with.

The report does not clear Trump, it says there's not enough evidence to file charges, evidently based on not being able to know or prove motivations. It's not true that there's not a scintilla of evidence. We've all seen tGrump saying, "Russia, if you're listening..." and Junior saying, "If it's what you say, I love it."

"Who are you going to believe, me -- or your lying eyes?"

The idea that the investigation was illegal is a lie. The idea that it was started by democrats commissioning the Steele dossier is a lie. The idea that it was a witch hunt has been put to bed. The idea that it cost a lot of money is both irrelevant and doubly so, because it paid for itself through fines and penalties, mostly paid by Manafort, one of the 34 people indicted as a result of the investigation.


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Posted - Mar 25 2019 : 4:41PM
I'll wake up from a long sleep to handle this one for you
Setting aside your criticism of the source of the commentary, I agree that it shows both his thoroughness and his integrity. In truth, the team he assembled were a very motivated lot when it comes to digging dirt on Trump, with many examples of bias in their collective backgrounds. Apparently Mueller did not allow prejudices to preclude the necessity of finding guilt.
A couple misconceptions packed in those few sentences. The letter breaks the report into two parts- Collusion and Obstruction of Justice. On the former, it most certainly and clearly "clears" Trump, his campaign and associates from colluding with Russia, even despite multiple offers of assistance. As to "Russia if you're listening" well you are displaying partisanship if you find that of evidence of anything but that he has a sense of humor. That joke played well, even though at the time he said it, it had been established and published fact that Hillary's private email server had been shut down and moth-balled, safe from FBI hands, many months prior. So in essence, asking Russia, in seriousness or in jest, to hack a device that does not exist is ridiculous. As to the Trump Tower meeting, it is not illegal to meet with a Russian, a Pole, a Chinese National, a North Korean, Crimean or anyone else of any nationality. If you are running a political campaign and someone offers to hand you information damaging to your opponent you'd be a fool not to take it. That is much less troubling than the way HRC campaign got the Perkins Coie Firm to surreptitiously pay Fusion GPS to hire Chris Steele to gather information from Russians who were supposedly close to Putin. Now there is collusion.
In this case, assuming you are aware your eyes are lying, you'd be better off believing him. It's okay though, you only know what you believe from news sources who have deceived you for three years.
It has far from been put to bed. The truth is in the FISA warrants, and they are going to release well before Mueller's full report does. The investigation was not illegal, but it was conceived off the back of a lot of conduct that WAS illegal. So I guess Trump is arguing it's the fruit of the poisonous tree. I guess he has a case there but it's water over the dam now, and in truth, without the Reports conclusions/findings he would have never been shut of this issue due to hostile media/democrats. There are still hostile media/democrats out there, but they now show for the deceptive, petty politically motivated Machiavellians they are. They can be handled and dealt with like flies from here on out.
On this first point I agree, it is irrevelant. I do not know if Manafort fines will go to pay for part of this investigation. I'd hope a portion of the fines would go to reimburse the likes of Jerome Corsi and Carter Page, who face financial ruin after legal fees and public pillorying.

I don't know how much the thing cost- I've read anywhere from 13 million to 30 million, so lets use the median of 21.5 million. The way I look at it, President Trump could have given Kellyanne Conway a check for 21.5 million and 2-3 yr timeframe and she could not have done as much with marketing, ad-buys and appearances to clear his name of these issues. There is value in that for Trump.

There's more on this of course. Trump says he wants the full report released (and he MAY), and of Course DEMS are screaming for the full report to be released. But guess what? They all know it will not be released. Nay, it cannot be released. For a lot of reasons, some of which Barr mentioned regarding ongoing matters but really the most important reason it cannot be released is it would be illegal to do so.

You cannot release the raw investigative product on an innocent person in this Country, it is illegal to do so no matter who they are. They had Carter Page wire-tapped for months, in retrospect they did that to gain electronic surveillance on up to 2,500 people using the "two-hop" rule, which means a person under Title 1 FISA is surveilled, the people he talks to are surveilled, AND the people THEY talk to are surveilled. It's reported that this usually results in between 900-2500 people under surveillance based on a single warrant. They had up to 2500 people wire-tapped and had access to their emails for months. But none of those 2,500 were charged, much less convicted. Now imagine the file/files contain 200 hours of Carter Page having gay phone sex with his lover or emails to his wife that he wanted to sniff her tampon. Should that be released?

That is why the report cannot be released- because it would contain all sorts of salacious leads, lies and theories that were turned in that proved to be untrue. This is why the Democrats want the report (and more especially they want the underlying documentation)- they want it for political mud-slinging opportunities.


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Posted - Mar 25 2019 : 9:25PM
I don't know who these Democrats are who want to know whether someone wants to sniff a used tampon.

But I think I'll stick to posting on the anti-Trump thread, since I am solidly in that camp.

It's best if I don't even read this thread. Not because I want to live in a bubble, but because I can be prodded to respond, and my thoughts really belong elsewhere.


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Posted - Mar 26 2019 : 1:34AM
And with that admission, I, like Mueller, rest my case without filing charges.

See you again in about 6 yrs when Ivanka is elected the First Woman President. You will be happier then with a woman in charge.


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Posted - Mar 27 2019 : 3:59AM
A gift from the President.

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Posted - Mar 30 2019 : 6:23PM

"Trump is effectively untouchable. Chances of impeaching him before the next election are pretty much at zero, and at the same time, the Pentagon has thrown a wad of fresh cash at his border wall."

"STORMY DANIELS’ LAWYER ARRESTED"

"CONGRESS FAILS TO BLOCK NATIONAL EMERGENCY"

"PENTAGON GRANTS TRUMP $1B FOR BORDER WALL"


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Posted - Apr 2 2019 : 5:46AM

“The 'investigation' began on a fabricated dossier bought and paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee.
There was no evidence of any collusion so the DNC made it up to explain to Clinton's donors why she lost the election. And peddled this lie for over two years. And, still, some cling to the delusion that Trump was involved in Russian collusion.” ()

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Posted - Apr 2 2019 : 7:11AM
OK, I'm going to stop in here for just this quick refutation:

FactCheck.Org:


One more thing: People in the Trump organization have admitted that Russians reached out to them. I have yet to hear any sort of valid explanation as to why no one alerted the FBI or CIA to that little fact. Especially since both the FBI and the CIA told them that might happen beforehand.

If you have anything in the way of that, I'd be happy to hear it.

Edited by - Smiler Grogan on 4/2/2019 7:11:54 AM


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^ But one of them documented themselves taking up that offer. (And when irrefutable evidence surfaced, the defence was: anyone would've done it!) Why weren't they charged with conspiracy to commit a criminal/treasonous act?
 
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^That's a very good question! I do not have an answer. Hopefully the Mueller Report -- whose release is still being fought over -- will have some answers on that.

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Posted - Apr 17 2019 : 5:47AM
Chomsky: Trump/Russia is "joke"

I've rarely seen Chomsky so visibly annoyed as he is here, at even the mere suggestion of interference itself.

And there is very good reason for this annoyance. The fact that this question even comes up is an insult to Chomsky's body of work going back over half a century.

It's not that he believes Trump is clean - far from it. He concludes there are plenty of reasons to criticize Trump, but this isn't one. It's that the accusation of collusion is so remedial that it pales in comparison to what Chomsky has been exposing for decades.

So surreal these revelations now seem. For me, the only legitimate concern about Trump was potential "kompromat" with Russia, while practically everything else was just a bunch of nonsense, e.g. racism, sexism, Islamophobia, etc, the predictable nonsense per the dominant, typical narratives in mainstream/legacy media.

Interviewer puts the issue of potential quid pro quo between Trump and the Kremlin...

Chomsky: [Quid pro quo] of what? Of what? The quid pro quo is that he's increased military action on the Russian border, he's created a huge expansion of the military budget aimed at Russia, he's pulled out of the INF Treaty, which is a major threat to Russia -- what's the quid pro quo?


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Posted - Apr 18 2019 : 5:06PM
["Why [wasn't Trump Jr] charged with conspiracy to commit a criminal/treasonous act?"]
I thought the whole reason ignorance of the law was not a defense was because anyone charged with committing a criminal offence could just say: "but I didn't know that was illegal"? It appears that now is a valid defence.

From a report article:

"Ignorance of the law was a defence

Trump Jr. agreed to take the meeting despite it being described in emails as part of a Russian government effort to help his father. ...

The meeting raised questions about whether Trump Jr. and others violated the federal ban on foreign contributions to American political campaigns.

But Mueller, who interviewed many of the participants in the meeting, said he didn't find that he could bring a case.

The special counsel wrote that it was unlikely the government could prove that Trump, Jr. and others in the meeting "had general knowledge that their conduct was unlawful."" ()


Edited by - Simple Simon on 4/18/2019 5:09:24 PM


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Posted - Apr 18 2019 : 11:45PM
Are you seriously trying to ask why the deep state establishment would not charge itself with conspiracy to commit treason?
When were people at this level ever held accountable for their abuse and atrocities around the world? Never. So why would you expect them to hold themselves accountable for anything?

Obama and Hillary are war criminals responsible for the death and displacement of millions of people.

You DO realize that these were efforts to entrap Trump's campaign members. Don't be naive. It is not "dumb" to take a meeting with someone claiming to have important information. It's dumb to ignore it. It's also not a crime.

It is not a crime to listen to what people have to say. If Hillary's campaign could get damning intelligence against Trump, do you really think it would matter where that intelligence came from? Why should it?

What if the evidence of "collusion", or let's go even further and say evidence of treason, was in the hands of Saudi Arabian agents? 1) Do you think it would be ignored? 2) Do you think it SHOULD be ignored?

Listening to what people have to say is not a crime. First and foremost what matters is whether information is valid i.e. true. Questioning intentions has to come after. In most cases, the intentions should prove obvious anyway. Everyone wants something in return. You think Hillary got to where she was only by taking, and never cutting deals? No one gets anywhere in politics without cutting deals. It's all a big game of quid pro quo.

What you desperately want is to find "collusion." But what you define as collusion for your political opponents you simply call "diplomacy" for your own.

"What THEY do is collude! BOOO! HISSS!"
"But wait, don't you do the same thing, since like... forever?"
"No, when WE do it, it's diplomacy!"

You all know damn good and well the establishment cut deals behind closed doors 24/7, whether it's deals for trade, for security, or for dirt. There is no transparency. That was a major issue in 2008 after the economic calamity and failure of Congress to have justified the Iraq campaign. Everyone wanted more transparency. It was a major talking point and a championed principle by both left and right wing candidates for the 2008 election. And as soon as Obama won, the concept died.

Still You have no collusion, no quid pro quo, even for the lowliest staffers like Carter Page. Even despite paying for opposition research. Even despite working with foreign and intergovernmental assets. Even despite exploiting the most powerful intelligence agencies on the planet to spy on your opposition.

Even despite being guilty of everything you accuse your opposition of and even far worse.

What I am trying to figure out is what people believe is worse:
A) knowing you have no evidence of collusion, but claiming you do in order to justify spying and defrauding the public for years simply to save face politically, or
B) having evidence of such collusion by traitorous entities and the ability to spy and properly indict, charge and convict, but simply being so incompetent you still failed to do it and bring about justice

Tell me which is worse? I think it's obvious, or it should be obvious, but I have yet to get a straight answer out of any partisan in the tank for either side. It's pretty clear people are at least either defending corruption or incompetence, and in many cases both.

Either way you slice it, it looks horrible for the establishment. It looks horrible for Obama and Hillary. It looks horrible for the intelligence agencies and their leaders who lied. It also exposes deep state corruption.

It's just funny how when the prospect of spying was mentioned by the AG, Democrats balked. "SPY?! What? Who US? We would NEVER!"

And yet you claim to have evidence of corruption... so why wouldn't you? You're trying to tell us the CIA and the FBI, the two largest spying networks on the planet, don't spy? Please. Everyone working there knows that is the job.

So if you're not willing to spy on people you claim to KNOW to a certainty are traitors at the highest level, then who do you spy on? Just the American people, eh Clapper? What we should ask is what good is all this spying if you can't even bring down someone you claim to have knowledge of their involvement in corruption which poses the utmost threat to the security of the nation?

This draws into question either your competence or your initial intelligence, e.g. claims of corruption.


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Posted - Apr 18 2019 : 11:49PM
BTW I'm using "you" in the editorial sense. It may as well be "we" or "they." But the questions are not all rhetorical. If anyone has answers, I'd welcome them.

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Posted - Apr 19 2019 : 12:22AM
That term just cracks me up. So the "deep state establishment" has been working to undermine the Trump administration, eh? Is this the same "deep state" that allowed Trump to win the election, gave him control of both the House and Senate for the first two years, and was unable to find something, anything to pin on Trump and get him impeached or imprisoned? I mean they most certainly could have, right? If this "deep state establishment" was evil enough to allow Obama and Hillary to slaughter millions of people, surely they wouldn't bat an eye to frame Trump for a crime that would get him kicked out of office, right?

Maybe Trump has Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny secretly defending him against the Deep State? (Fuck, this country needs to be better educated.)


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Posted - Apr 19 2019 : 9:31PM
^^ Oh thanks. I thought you were asking all of those questions to me personally. (I was getting a notepad out to try to prepare a response to each one.)
 
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"As Mueller notes in his report, many of Trump's most disturbing actions – such as discouraging witnesses from co-operating with the investigation – "took place in public view".

Obstruction of justice usually occurs in secret; in this case, the most powerful person in the country seemed to be engaging in witness tampering via Twitter.

Because of the unusually public nature of Trump's behaviour, much of Mueller's report won't come as a surprise to anyone who is relatively politically engaged."

"We knew that Trump tried to pressure FBI Director James Comey to drop an investigation into his former national security adviser, and we knew he asked White House counsel Don McGahn to help fire Mueller.

"Mueller cleared Trump on collusion and refused to say whether he believed he obstructed justice. In this context, it would be madness for Democrats to pursue impeachment: it would divide their party, unify Republicans, alienate independent voters and wouldn't force Trump from power.

Speaking after the release of the report, the Democrats' House majority leader Steny Hoyer said: "Based on what we have seen to date, going forward on impeachment is not worthwhile at this point."


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Posted - Apr 20 2019 : 9:40AM
90% of the mainstream media supported Hillary.
The majority of the establishment supported Hillary, including the endorsement of the Bush family.
The Dems specifically target women and minorities with the majority of their pandering involving appeals to identity politics.
Not only do Dems outnumber Republicans 6-5, on top of this, more than 70% of the electorate is women and minorities.

Hillary had virtually every single conceivable advantage. Hers was the biggest political upset at the presidential level in living memory.

They accused Trump of betraying the public and the nation at large while they were the ones with far more power and obviously abusing it, just like every administration.

You know they are guilty of war crimes. You know they lie while violating your rights. You also know they are never held accountable. You don't think that's the influence of the deep state?

Brennan and Clapper both lied to Congress. Comey explicitly stated that he could not imagine any other circumstance under which someone as negligent as Hillary would not have been terminated from the private sector or should not be indicted, yet he "elected" to insulate her. She is a career politician as much a part of the deep state as any.

They violate you and everyone you know, and you know they do, and yet you approve.

How many more times do you need to be schooled by Chomsky?


Now, does any of this mean Trump is a hero? No. Just in the right place at the right time, and he's managed to shake things up *ostensibly* but not very meaningfully. In the end, he may prove to be little different than Reagan who was also vilified as "Hitler" in the early 80s. It's all the same.

Edited by - melvyn on 4/20/2019 9:45:31 AM


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Posted - Apr 20 2019 : 9:43AM
Chomsky on the Dems: "They gave Trump a huge gift. In fact they may have handed him the next election."

[see embedded clip above]


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Posted - Apr 20 2019 : 9:57AM
Macko, in simplest terms, it is the same deep state that is absolutely guilty of everything they accuse Trump of and even far more and far worse.

Seriously, have none of you Trump Derangement Syndrome sufferers ever listened to Chomsky even once in your life? It's the same deep state that manipulates a puppet like Obama to increase government oversight and expand imperialism and end up being just as bad if not worse than his predecessor George W. Bush.

"Ohhhh, THAT deep state." Yeah, that one.

Do you really think authorizing over 25,000 bombings on 7 different nations in just 1 year alone was what Obama had in mind going into office? Maybe you're right, but I never suspected Obama was so independently evil. And do you think Hillary's intention was to see a resurgence in slave markets in Libya after spearheading the NATO campaign to destabilize a sovereign nation with plans to nationalize its oil reserves?

But rest assured, Trump will be as much their puppet as every other president. He's only a few million of casualties away from being as bad as Obama and Hillary. Just give it some more time. I'm sure you'll be a lot happier then.

Edited by - melvyn on 4/20/2019 10:00:46 AM


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Posted - Apr 20 2019 : 10:23AM
Makes sense -- they're better informed than the general public.
Ditto.
As a woman, I don't feel "targeted," I feel represented. There's another party that represents white men, but their interests are already well-represented for the last few hundred (thousands of) years.
Well, that's a good reason for us to represent their interests.
Nope. The electoral college is where the real vote is taken, and it exists solely to potentially nullify the will of the majority.

Etc.

 
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Posted - Apr 21 2019 : 12:20AM
Apparently, Hillary ignored one of her biggest advantages, that being the advice of her husband. If true, then her judgement is called into question.

Also, if the election was a straight-up popularity contest then it shouldn't surprise anybody that Trump, the newcomer to politics, came out ahead of Hillary, given all the baggage she was carrying around.

We are a republic, not a democracy. Ergo, the will of the majority was never the primary concern of our founders. Obviously, the disparity in population size between the various states made a straight up 'democratic' vote a non-starter for the representatives of those states, each of whom wanted to be on an equal footing with the rest in this new enterprise.

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Posted - Apr 21 2019 : 8:29AM

"Trump's legal team, through a combination of bluster, legal precedent and shifting tactics, managed to protect their client from a potentially perilous in-person interview during special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia investigation. His lawyers are taking a victory lap after a redacted version of Mueller's findings revealed politically damaging conduct by the president but drew no conclusions of criminal behaviour."

"[Giuliani would] accuse the investigators of misconduct and ... portray Mueller ... as unpatriotic.

... became a human smoke screen, making accusations and offering theories often meant to distract and obfuscate. He was a punch line on cable news channels, and his interviews were mocked as blunder-filled performances.

But there was a method to Giuliani's shtick, at least at times. More than once he let slip revelations that initially were perceived as gaffes but later were recognized as efforts to get out ahead of potentially damaging news stories"


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Posted - Apr 24 2019 : 9:07AM

"Donald Trump dodged a mobile phone which had been hurled at him as he addressed a gun supporters’ rally."

"Mr Trump vowed to fight for gun rights and implored members of the group struggling to maintain its influence to rally behind his re-election bid."

"[the] gun rights organisation was pivotal to Mr Trump’s victory in 2016."

Edited by - Simple Simon on 4/26/2019 11:46:46 PM


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Posted - Apr 26 2019 : 11:58PM
^That wasn't a dodge. Looks like it landed 10-15 feet away from him, at least.

Now ...THAT'S a dodge!

Edited by - Macko69 on 4/27/2019 12:06:05 AM

 
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Rose was removed from the event by the Marion County Sheriff’s Office and the Secret Service and an investigation into the incident is ongoing. It is not clear if Rose intentionally threw the phone at Trump. If the phone was thrown toward the president, a motive for why Rose threw has not been revealed.

“The Marion County Sheriff’s Office assisted the US Secret Service today in an ongoing investigation,” Katie Carlson, public information officer for the sheriff’s office, told Heavy in an email. “William Rose, a subject in the investigation, was transported to receive a mental health evaluation.”

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Good tweets by the president. I agree. Virtual currencies do need to be regulated.

Another reason for pushing back hard on Bitcoin that wasn't mentioned by the president:


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Posted - Jul 17 2019 : 4:00PM
I don't think mine is a very popular position, but this is one of the few benefits that actually occurred as a result of the Tax Cut and Jobs Act.

First: I think there are some really great charities out there who do much to benefit our society, and I am sad that many of them are probably getting hurt by this, but I think that overall, what's happening is good. For much too long, our tax code has been too generous with non-profits, and many organizations really don't deserve this sort of treatment. I'm hoping the next step is to start taxing some of the larger non-profits on their operational income.


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Posted - Jul 25 2019 : 9:48AM
The testimony went pretty much exactly as I expected. I didn't even get up early to watch.

If it 'failed' (it only 'failed' if you expected it to do something specific), then it failed for completely predictable reasons.

1) People are not rational, and they believe whatever they want to believe, in the face of any and all evidence. It's a given.

2) People watch tv for the comedian, not the straight man. People tune in to watch Robin Williams clown around as Mork, and can't even remember what white-bread Mindy did. They tune in for Lucy, not Ethel. We have the clowniest con man on the planet that we can watch, or the straightest, dullest, most expressionless, most inflection-less, most humorless guy we've ever seen.

And Mork, there, can't resist being the center of attention, gobbling up all the air in the room. He's going to say hundreds of times that he's completely exonerated, even though it's not true, and the guy who says he's not exonerated has to be coaxed into grunting it once.

Basically, you can chalk it all up to tv and social media, and people demanding to be entertained. We will no longer elect anyone for their executive skills, but rather to entertain us. So if you can't entertain with craziness and lies, you need to try doing things like jumping up on the counter in the diner and speaking Klingon.




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