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Posted - Nov 28 2015 : 8:35AM
Whether it is terrorism depends on the motives of the shooter. I may be behind on the news and they may have now released the reasoning, but last I knew they hadn't. If he was targeting Planned Parenthood to get them to change their business model, yes it is terrorism and he should be treated the same as any other terrorist and get to enjoy the wonderful facilities at Guantanamo Bay. If he was just a nutjob in need of lithium, then it doesn't qualify as terrorism and he should be put to death.
As far as the media goes, good media will refer to it under the terms alleged until there is a trial and then after such only refer to whatever the verdict was. For instance if he was not brought up on terrorism charges and found guilty, they can't decide that he is that is up to a jury of his peers. Personally if this had anything to do with causing fear at Planned Parenthood I think he should be brought up on terrorism charges.
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You are coming up on a presidential election year. There is no way you will ever have enough mental health facilities to deal with 300 million plus people being subjected to a year and a half of media coverage of a presidential election campaign.
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Posted - Nov 28 2015 : 10:37AM
By the way MSNBC was embarrassing to watch during coverage of this yesterday. I am thoroughly convinced their anchorwoman had never heard of Colorado Springs before this. More than once she called it a suburb of Denver. How do you get a job covering news on a national American news network and not have any idea where the United States Air Force Academy, the United States Olympic Committee headquarters, Pikes Peak, or NORAD are located? Shouldn't there be some way to access Google Earth in their studio or news room?
Edited by - the unknown pervert on 11/28/2015 10:39:25 AM
 
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The man suspected of storming a Planned Parenthood clinic and killing a police officer and two others in Colorado on Friday told the officers who arrested him “no more baby parts,’’ after being taken into custody, according to a law enforcement official.
The attack on the clinic was “definitely politically motivated,’’ the official — who was briefed on the investigation and spoke on condition of anonymity because it is still unfolding — told The Washington Post. NBC News, which first reported the comment attributed to suspect Robert Lewis Dear, said Dear also mentioned President Obama in a range of statements to investigators that left unclear his precise motivation in targeting the clinic in Colorado Springs.

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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 8:52AM
Then definitely terrorism and he should be treated the same as any other terrorist, foreign or domestic.
 
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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 9:42AM
He won't be, because he's not out to get "us", he's out to get "them", at least, according to conservatives.

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Posted - Nov 29 2015 : 6:10PM
Well we do have a shooter in custody as opposed to having dozens of police bullets in him. I guess that's something.
 
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Questions
1). Is there a problem of shootings in this country?
2). If so, what do we do about it?

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^ Panic about receiving 1/100th of the refugees than allies in Europe do?
 
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IMHO, the only solution is tax cuts for the rich.[/snark]

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December 5, 2015.
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Posted - Dec 12 2015 : 2:21PM
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She's right, she shouldn't raise her children in the US. Lucky for her, she is free to leave the country at any time. I missed the part of the article where she thanked us for the opportunity to come here. Anyways, she's welcome.

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Posted - Dec 12 2015 : 6:49PM
As an American living in Canada (with a sister-in-law who is Canadian, living in the U.S.) I can tell you that none of us goes around thanking random people for being in their country. Not any more than you'd wander around Montana thanking random people for the opportunity to live there after you move there from Wyoming. You especially wouldn't bother thanking belligerent, unattractive, or creepy people. There's nobody appointed to be the person that we need to bow down to, either.
As friends of ours told us right before we moved to Canada (they are Americans who lived in Canada for over a decade), living in Canada is trading one can of worms for another. And it is. And the author of the article and I both feel the freedom of speech to express our opinions about the pros and cons without thanking you for anything.

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Posted - Dec 12 2015 : 6:59PM
Oh, and even though I don't gush to everybody, I am grateful for my opportunity to live in Canada. But my neighbors here would be real weirded out if I appended that thought into every discussion of whether the local snow removal company was doing a good job.

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Posted - Dec 21 2015 : 7:31AM
I am back in USA again,I find it interesting people trying to put blame of California killings on Apple products encryption.I see where Hillary wants a Manhattan Project for Encryption,that doesn't surprise me.
 
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Posted - Dec 21 2015 : 3:47PM
I'm far more afraid of the government than I am of terrorists.
The sad fact is that nothing -- nothing -- the government could have done, or could do going forward, would have caught and stopped the San Bernardino terrorist killings.
The government could have access to every single email, text message and phone call of every single American and visitor on American soil, and still not be able to intercept and stop activities like the San Bernardino terrorists, who did everything they could to keep a very low profile and stay off the grid.
Sure, after several weeks of the FBI digging into the two shooters -- and with the cooperation of Sayed Farook's buddy Enrique Marquez -- they were able to determine that the two shooters had been radicalized for a long time.
But, the fact is that, a full-scale FBI investigation is not practical or possible for run-of-the-mill immigration for the purpose of marriage (or other routine immigration, for that matter).
What we did see, however, was yet another example of straw purchases of guns that were later used in crimes.
But, of course, we can never do anything about guns and enforcing the laws we already have on the books

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Posted - Dec 21 2015 : 5:18PM
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Posted - Jan 11 2016 : 7:23AM
President Obama is simply trying to build his "nest egg" for his retirement.
He may own stock in the firearms industry.
He is their best man in the sales department.
Every time he opens his mouth about guns, folks buy more guns.
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Posted - Jan 11 2016 : 2:40PM
The FBI set a record for gun purchase background checks for a month in December (stats kept since 1988). They ,also, set a yearly record for background checks in 2015. Things do appear to be headed in the wrong direction.
 
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"A high-profile pro-gun activist was shot in the back by her four-year-old son after he found her pistol lying on the back seat of her truck just 24 hours after he boasted about his shooting skills online."
 
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But remember...guns are a crime deterrent!
 
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The President keeps his investments in a blind trust. He doesn't know what he's invested in, nor does he have the ability to make buy or sell orders or even recommendations to the trustee.
 
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Posted - Sep 17 2016 : 2:29AM
Wouldn't he know what he invested in before placing it into the trust? Also what's the check against the trustee doing whatever the hell he wants like you hear all those money managers cheating athletes?

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Posted - Sep 17 2016 : 2:24PM
According to Donald Trump:
Okay, but this thread is guns.
So... guns.

Edited by - Pieps on 9/17/2016 2:24:50 PM

 
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Posted - Sep 21 2016 : 5:35PM
When I hear pundits talk about "Oh, Democrats have to do more outreach -- they've got to talk to people in rural America, who don't live on the coasts." I want to just slap them, for various reasons, but also because it's pretty much a fact that there's no reaching some people.

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Posted - Sep 21 2016 : 6:06PM
No, he doesn't know what he's invested in. That's why it's called a "blind" trust. In Obama's case, while it's not a blind trust, it's an index fund, which means that the investments are so varied, and each individual company makes up such a minute part of the portfolio's value, there's really almost no way that Obama could purposely do anything that might materially affect the value of it, other than maybe tanking it by exploding a nuke or something ridiculous. So it's essentially, he really has no influence on the value of his fund, which is the whole purpose of a blind trust.
The check against the trustee doing whatever the hell he wants is something called a "fiduciary responsibility". A person tasked with managing the money of another is responsible for making decisions in the owner's best interest. Sure, it's possible for a money manager to cheat their client, and it happens all the time, unfortunately. But that can happen in a blind trust just as easily as it can happen with any fund that manages the money of others. There are people who have oversight responsibilities to a blind trust, so it's not as if there's only one person watching over the assets. And I'd think that if someone is going to steal from a client, just about the worst person you could steal from is the President.
 
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Posted - Sep 21 2016 : 9:58PM
I'm asking why he wouldn't know what he's invested in before putting it in the trust. For example, Dick Cheney owned a significant share of Halliburton due to his time as CEO prior to becoming VP. What did he do with that interest?

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Posted - Sep 21 2016 : 10:24PM
^For a blind trust to work, he's supposed to sell the assets first and turn in the cash to the trustee who makes the decisions. I can't speak specifically about Cheney's situation, but had he been operating the blind trust like it was supposed to have been run, he would have turned his assets into cash first. For a blind trust to work the way it's intended, it must be blind. That's the point. If it's not blind, there's no purpose for having it.
Keep in mind that a blind trust isn't an absolute requirement for presidency (or vice presidency). But much like releasing a copy of the tax returns, it's something most of us have come to expect. And the reason why I brought it up was because someone earlier in the thread implied that Obama's stance on guns was motivated by his desire to create gains in his own personal investment account. I responded because I wanted to make clear that Obama is unable to make political decisions which will have a direct impact on his personal investment portfolio.
 
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Posted - Sep 26 2016 : 2:21PM
Guy walks into a shopping mall and kills 5 people in minutes. Why doesn't these public massacres get treated like terrorism? It's ridiculous.

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Posted - Sep 30 2016 : 4:25PM
^ It might be classified as an act of terrorism. It depends on the motive.

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Posted - Oct 4 2016 : 2:16PM
It's sad when kid goes into school and kills 2 kids and not even a blip speculating cause the body count is to low. Don't we have a problem here?
 
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