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Posted - Jul 25 2019 : 6:40PM
Correction Pieps, many Americans are ignorant, and many are NOT, but anyway, that's some Really STRANGE "we" shit that you wrote, as if you were saying that those of us on this thread, most of whom seem to be quite well informed folks, should, supposedly, also be considered part of America's ignorance, according to the way that your point #2 was written.


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"In the midst of the Watergate scandal, the OLC examined whether a sitting president could be indicted under the terms of America’s Constitution. It wrote a pivotal memo concluding the president was immune as long as he was in office.

The OLC looked at the issue again in 2000 and reaffirmed its original position.

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the Mueller investigation was commissioned by former deputy attorney-general Rod Rosenstein and overseen by the Justice Department, the conventional wisdom is that Mr Mueller himself was also bound by the OLC opinion.

But that is something of a moot point anyway. The simple fact is, even if Mr Mueller had recommended that Mr Trump be indicted, the Justice Department would not have done it."


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It's a collective "we", and hence, it's a generalization.

It's what Russian trolls on facebook are playing to. It's what tGrump, fox news, etc., are playing to.

It's what the world thinks of us.


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Posted - Jul 25 2019 : 9:28PM
^ They're not wrong.

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Fake seal, real seal, in between them is a Russian double eagle.

They say the audio video person got fired. But hey, he'll never have to buy his own drinks. But wait -- they claimed they just wanted to project a presidential seal and the person did a sloppy google search, and there was no intentional disrespect. So. Maybe.

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"How Jerry Falwell Jr. silences students and professors who reject his pro-Trump politics."

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Faculty, staff and students on the Lynchburg, Va., campus have learned that it’s a sin to challenge the sacrosanct status of the school or its leader, which mete out punishments for dissenting opinions (from stripping people of their positions to banning them from campus). This “culture of fear,” as it was described by several of the dozen Liberty denizens who talked to me for this story — most of them anonymously to protect their jobs or their standing — worsened during my four years on campus because of the 2016 presidential election.

By 2016, Liberty’s efforts to limit free expression were already well-established. (“The big victory was finding a way to tame the faculty,” Falwell told the New York Times last year for a story about privileging Liberty’s financial growth over its academics.) But the school’s methods became even more aggressive after Falwell endorsed Donald Trump early that year, according to multiple current and former faculty members. “The closer you get to the president’s office,” says former history professor Brian Melton, discussing a chilling effect at the school, “the worse it becomes.” Falwell’s staff now operates masterfully to squash challenges to his views and his rise in national political influence.

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Well, I must say it certainly is a good thing


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I'm sorry to have to tell you this, Pieps, but your saying you used "we" in some "collective" way that's actually a "generalization" is about as deceptive as most of the BS that Trump puts out. Because your generalization excuse, which you've given, still AVOIDS an obvious fact that whenever a speaker or writer uses the word "we" while describing some characteristic of a group of people, or the behavior of that group of folks, it's universally understood that in having chosen the word we to refer to the group he was discussing, that speaker or writer, was INCLUDING himself among the members of that group. That's just the way that "we" functions in accepted English.

And since the more clueless of Trump's fans, who actually believe his more absurd claims, REALLY ARE ignorant people, you should admit that your use of the word "we", WAS a MISTAKE, unless you intended to include yourself in the "collective generalization" that would place you into the same category of people which includes genuinely ignorant Trump fans, who I just mentioned. So you certainly sell yourself short, if you do that, since obviously, you're nothing at all, like a blindly ignorant Trump supporter.

Anyhow, I'd certainly say, that almost without exception, the dedicated Trump critics of this thread, would find it pretty insulting to be lumped into some collective generalization, which is basically an absurd claim that all Americans are ignorant. Of course, the presence of many well informed people, on this very thread, literally proves that such a generalization, is nothing but a lie!

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I read a column that touched on this incident and it brought me to tears. From the

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Macko69, thank you for your post, and making me aware of that shocking encounter between that brave young woman, and that old useless bag of rancid human waste.

With all of this week's coverage, and discussion, of Robert Mueller's testimony, I'd managed to totally miss noticing any mention of that incident. And it's TRULY STUNNING how Trump's seeming failure to reveal any genuinely human reaction, as he's being told of such tragic suffering and sorrow, MUST, as you indicated, mean that there is a great empty space inside Trump, which fortunately for humanity, is a void which is not found among most people. And, IMO, your choice of the phrase "boundless self-absorption" is probably about as good, and appropriate, of a description of America's #1 Scumbag, as could be attached to Trump, after learning about his disgraceful, and graceless, interaction with that unfortunate young lady.

Thanks again for your post, Macko69, though it stands as a sad reminder, as I'm about to try to get some sleep, tonight, that our country is currently being led by someone who possesses so little genuine humanity, compared to 99% of the Americans who he hopes to continue lording over, for another term as President.


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"Mexicans ... have learnt to laugh off his various verbal grenades, the very people who are charged with defeating him are instead consumed by a playground squabble over how offended they should be by what he says."

"For anyone with half a brain (or half a sense of humour) this would quickly be laughed off for the half-baked political grenade that it is — a dud that should never have gone off. But instead the humourless brigade it was aimlessly flung at picked it up, pulled out the pin and let it blow up in their face."

"Instead of carving out their own campaign to win back the disaffected working-class voters who switched from Obama to Trump in 2016, the so-called progressive Dems are making it all about their own hurt feelings and — more tellingly — all about Trump. Once more the Donald is effortlessly setting the agenda and his loudest critics are mindlessly dancing to his tune."

"so-called progressives, who so pride themselves on their intellectual powers, snap at the bait so ferociously and mindlessly that they end up hooking themselves on a reel that Trump never even knew he cast."


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^^Oh look, a white guy who isn’t even a citizen of the US is telling us that we’re foolish for being bothered by Trump’s overt racism.

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^ I'll only respond to the quotes I posted, but I'll repeat this one.

"Instead of carving out their own campaign to win back the disaffected working-class ... the so-called progressive Dems are making it all about themselves... Once more the Donald is effortlessly setting the agenda and his loudest critics are mindlessly dancing to his tune."


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^This idiot is trying to convince us that if Democrats are speaking out against racism, they can’t at the same time, mount a campaign to win back the “disaffected working class”. What a stupid and wildly untrue statement.

Second, this guy isn’t taking into consideration how minorities would feel about a candidate who ignored or glossed over Trump’s racism. As a minority, if there were a Democratic candidate who didn’t forcefully and repeatedly speak out against Trump’s racism, they’d certainly lose my vote.

Third, a white guy shouldn’t tell minorities how the react to racism directed against them. He hasn’t walked in our shoes, so he should keep his goddamn mouth shut.

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...and the elections' still 15 months away....


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^ I heard if it came down to that, Trump could stand down as President just before, so Pence would become President, and then Pence could proactively pardon him. Does anyone know if that's true?
 
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That's an interesting theory, but courts do not look favorably upon schemes which are enacted solely to evade justice. So, I wouldn't call it a slam dunk.

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It would be more amusing if Trump could stand down as President just before, so Pence would become President, and then Pence could say, "Finally I got that sick, crazy motherfucker off my neck -- rot in hell, motherfucker!"

I'd pay to see that one.


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The courts would have nothing to do with it. The Constitution explicitly gives the President the full power to issue pardons. No limitations or restrictions are given to that power. If the courts were to become involved for some strange inexplicable reason, they'd have to find a compelling argument for overriding what is plainly written in the Constitution. And the only way that it would even make it to court in the first place would be for someone to pursue legal action, which would probably be the Democrats, and that wouldn't make sense since they would have already accomplished their goal of getting Trump out of office. Besides, it's not like it hasn't happened before. We all know Ford pardoned Nixon, so it wouldn't be unprecedented.

But it's all a hypothetical anyway. If we know anything about Trump by now, it's that he's not type to stand down from anything. You shouldn't hold your breath waiting for that to happen, especially since there's a good chance he'll be re-elected.


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Trump's exactly, exactly the kind of guy to overturn the table when he's losing a board game, though.

So if it ever comes to where it looks like he would lose, he's exactly the person to announce that he's taking his ball and going home, and that you suckers don't appreciate him, and he has better things to do than help out us idiots, and on his way out he might just nuke something.

He's really not predictable because he is not consistent and he blows in the wind like one of those flags that he likes to hump.


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^If he were going to do that, then he would have done it in 2016 when everyone kept saying he was going to lose. And that was when he had a much smaller chance of winning than he does in 2020. If he didn't do it then, then why would anyone expect him to do it now?

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Really? In 2016, when he was only a candidate, he had the nuclear codes?

Methinks there's a lot more on the table to be overturned now.

The guy likes drama.

 
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We are mostly in agreement. We only differ in you arguing that it couldn't happen, whereas I think that it could - not would, or should, but that it could.

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Nowadays, people sue for everything. So you're right that it could happen, though not at all likely. Anything is possible.
Yep, he does. And so do Americans. This is exactly why he'll probably end up winning again. He's just giving the people what they want.
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^^ &

"President Gerald Ford granted Nixon, Ford's predecessor as president, a full and unconditional pardon for any crimes he might have committed against the United States while president"



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Sheer Ignorance Must Explain Why Trump Fans Aren't Bothered By The Preferential Treatment He Gives To The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia


It's so strange that I personally know Trump supporters who refer to Arabs as being "Ragheads", but those same people have no problem with Trump bending over backwards to be kind to Saudi Arabia, even though every one of America's close allies, as well as our own country's intelligence services, have no doubts about the fact that Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince, Mohammed bin Salman (MbS) approved of the murder of Washington Post journalist, Jamal Khashoggi. Mr Khashoggi, who was originally from Saudi Arabia, had been writing Washington Post articles, that were being read all over the world, which had also been continually causing members of the top leadership of Saudi Arabia, to be filled with anger regarding Khashoggi, due to his series of articles that were not only very critical of Saudi Arabia's repressive regime, but also had Khashoggi regularly pointing out how the people of his former country deserved to achieve more freedom.

And after the murder of Mr Khashoggi, an anonymous Saudi official even stated that Saudi General Ahmad Asiri sent 15 Saudi operatives to confront Khashoggi at the Saudi Arabian consulate in Istanbul, and if necessary, detain him, and then take him back to Saudi Arabia. Khashoggi, was divorced from his first wife, a Saudi, and he had already made one visit to Saudi Arabia's consulate in Istanbul, for the purpose of obtaining a document certifying that he was no longer married, so he could marry his Turkish fiancée. But Mr Khashoggi was told to return to the consulate, for a 2nd visit, that would be 4 days after his initial visit, and at that time, the document would be made available to him. So, he made that return trip to the Saudi Arabian consulate, and Mr Khashoggi was murdered very soon after he arrived.

People who are familiar with how tightly controlled that The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is by the Crown Prince, & the Royal family, state that there is NO WAY that 15 Saudi nationals would have dreamed up a murder plot, on their own, which required them to travel to a foreign country to murder a journalist, without them having received definite approval from the Crown Prince, to carry out their planned atrocity.

And Donald Trump's continuing claim that no one can actually be sure that Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman gave his approval for the murder plot that ended Mr Khashoggi's life, certainly becomes one more Trump claim that lacks ANY CREDIBILITY, if people consider the following discovery by U.S. intelligence officers. It's been reported that America's CIA has an audio recording of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, saying, a year before Khashoggi was murdered, that the Washington Post writer needed to have a bullet put into his head.

Also, the Washington Post reported on October 10th 2018 that U.S. intelligence intercepted communications of Saudi officials discussing a plan ORDERED BY the Crown Prince, to capture Khashoggi from his home in Virginia. The intercepted communications were regarded as significant because Khashoggi had bought a home in McLean, Virginia, where he lived after he fled from Saudi Arabia.

In view of all of the above, President Trump HAS TO KNOW that the man who Donald, as well as son-in-law Kushner, are always so chummy with, Crown Prince MbS, will have people murdered who complain too loudly about conditions in Saudi Arabia. But the sad fact that Trump's quite friendly looking public appearances with the Crown Prince, such as the one at a recent economic summit meeting, indicate that Donald has little, if any, difficulty in having a friendly relationship with a leader who is willing to have writers murdered, is a reality that actually reminds me of something that another writer has often said about Donald Trump. The writer I'm referring to is Anthony Schwartz who is the man who ghost wrote Trump's "The Art Of The Deal" best selling business book, for Donald. And I don't think that the criticisms of Trump that come from Mr Schwartz stem from bitterness, because if memory serves, Mr Trump actually shared the profits from that book with Mr Schwartz, in an even 50/50 split, between the two men.

But in the 18 months that Anthony Schwartz spent with Trump to do research for that book, Mr Schwartz has said that the most important thing that he learned from his time with Donald Trump, is that Donald shows no sign of having a conscience, or really even caring, in the slightest, if his actions or words cause serious harm to other people. That's why Mr Schwartz is often heard, during his appearances on TV, saying "Mr Trump is a SOCIOPATH, totally devoid of having a conscience, or any ethical standards that he's willing to abide by."

Well, to return to the main subject, about a month ago, a truly CHILLING audio recording was released, of a conversation that 2 Saudis had as they were watching a security camera's view of Mr Khashoggi approaching the Saudi consulate, in Istanbul. The 2 men were discussing how Khashoggi's body could be cut up by starting off with severing it at its various joints. And the men also said they thought they'd brought enough plastic bags with them to make it easy to transport all the pieces of Mr Khashoggi's body, out of the consulate.

Gee, in view of Trump's known hatred for journalists, it's pretty depressing to have to realize that Donald Trump is bound to be quite ENVIOUS of the Crown Prince's ability to even be able to GET AWAY with having a writer for The Washington Post murdered. I mean, if we consider the great job that The Washington Post does of casting a light on so much of Trump's unacceptable behavior, as well as keeping its running total of Donald's continuing flood of lies, which has passed 11 THOUSAND, we can be SURE that Trump would have some of the men & women of The Washington Post murdered, if Donald had that Saudi creep's ability to evade responsibility for ordering murders.
But, in a way, Trump IS functioning as an ACCOMPLICE to murder, after the fact, by Donald still standing up to defend a Saudi Scumbag!
(Apparently, just like birds of a feather, fellow SCUMBAGS STICK TOGETHER!)

And this was stated on Wikipedia: "On 15 November 2018, the Saudi Prosecutor's Office stated that 11 Saudi Nationals had been indicted and charged with murdering Khashoggi and that five of the individuals who were indicted would face the death penalty, since it had been determined they were directly involved in "ordering and executing the crime".

Naturally, Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman (who's often referred to as MbS) claims that the murder by that Saudi assassination team was strictly a "rogue" operation that the men undertook, totally on their own, without the Prince having had any knowledge of the murder plot. Now that claim is not only absurd, but it also insults the intelligence of anyone who knows how things are run in Saudi Arabia.

BTW, In June 2001, Trump sold the entire 45th floor of Trump World Tower to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia for $4.5 million.

And of course, the VERY FIRST country that Trump visited, as President, was Saudi Arabia, where Donald really KISSED the asses of the members of the Saudi Royal Family, by Trump getting up, and joining them, in their RIDICULOUS "Sword Dance"! Man, we can all just imagine the sweet business deals the Saudi Royal Family must make available to the Trumps for Donald to willingly KISS so much ass!

Also, NOT EVEN ONE of the various TRAVEL BANS that Trump put together, or proposed, as President, has EVER INCLUDED Saudi Arabia.

In fact, when the first travel ban list of 7 countries was announced, reporters quickly pointed out that ZERO was the exact number of people killed here, in America, by any terrorist, or terrorists, from any of those 7 countries.

BUT, 15 of the 19 terrorists who murdered almost 3 THOUSAND Americans on 9/11, as well as the sick creep who ordered that mass murder, Bin Laden, were all SAUDI ARABIAN nationals.

Now since Mr Trump's stated PURPOSE for having a travel ban, is to MAKE Americans SAFER from being hit by possible terrorist attacks, then, as any cop or detective would say, ANY travel ban being compiled which names certain countries as being SUSPECTS for harboring terrorists MUST PLACE Saudi Arabia at THE TOP of the LIST, because the huge role that Saudi Arabian nationals played in the tragic history of Americans who have been murdered by terrorists should CERTAINLY earn the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia the title of SUSPECT #1 among countries which may be regarded as likely sources for vicious terrorists.

Of course, since it's well known that most of the terrorists who murdered thousands of Americans in the 9/11 massacre, as well as Bin Laden, the creep who ordered them to do it, were Saudi Arabian nationals, then a quite OBVIOUS question just begs to be asked, which is: "Why has Trump, as President, NEVER chosen to have Saudi Arabia subjected to ANY of his proposed travel bans?

Well, the answer to that is simple, and it's the exact SAME REASON Trump, and son-in-law Kushner, are still being seen KISSING the ass of Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. That answer is literally that with all of the money that Trump, and his family, make from dealing with rich Saudi businessmen & the Saudi Royals (Trump BOASTED about the $ he makes from Saudis in his 2016 campaign!), and hope to CONTINUE MAKING in the future, 1 THING Donald NEVER wants to do, is to make any move that might ENDANGER his business DEALINGS with powerful Saudi businessmen, such as OFFENDING THEM, by Trump, as President, subjecting their country to a travel ban.

So, fellow Trump critics, when it comes to the Presidential debates in 2020, I sure hope that the Democratic Presidential nominee, whoever he or she might be, will turn & face Trump in a debate, and say something like THIS: "Mr Trump, in subjecting certain countries to bans on their citizens traveling to America, your stated purpose was to make Americans safer from possible terrorism. So it was a very bad, though self-serving, move on your part, for you to have deliberately EXEMPTED from any of your proposed travel bans, the very country which was where most of the 9/11 terrorists were raised. 15 of the 19 terrorists who murdered thousands of Americans on 9/11 were Saudi Arabian nationals, as was Bin Laden, who ordered them to attack us. Now since 90 to 95% of our fellow Americans who've ever been murdered in our country by terrorists, were murdered by those 9/11 terrorists, the only possible reason you could have had, Mr President, for leaving Saudi Arabia out of travel bans designed to make America less open to the danger of terrorism, was because, Sir, you felt MORE concern over possibly ENDANGERING your chances of closing business deals with wealthy Saudis if they'd be OFFENDED by your subjecting their country to a travel ban, than any REAL amount of concern that you felt for the SAFETY of Americans, since you knew that your decision to EXEMPT Saudi Arabia from any travel ban, made the DANGER of a terrorist attack on YOUR OWN country, somewhat MORE likely, since Saudi Arabia is the very country that's been the #1 SOURCE of TERRORISTS who have committed MASS murder of Americans!! And no other nation even comes remotely close to Saudi Arabia, as a source for terrorists who have targeted America, if we stop to remember that 9/11's huge death toll was mostly due to the heinous acts of 15 Saudi nationals, while also having resulted from another Saudi national, Osama Bin Laden, having ordered those terrorists to viciously attack America."

And at the end of that debate, when the candidates give their closing statements, the Democrat could cap off his remarks by ending with the following body slam of a statement aimed at today's Presidential Scumbag: "Well folks, these are obviously some serious, and often, some pretty troubling times. But let me point out 1 very good thing about the time that we now find ourselves in. And that is that I firmly believe that most Americans are smart enough, as well as fair minded enough, to be able to easily recognize that it's quite a shame, as well as being a genuine disgrace, for America to now be saddled with a President who obviously worries more about possibly endangering some profits he may be able to gain from making deals with Saudi business people, than this President actually worries about having a travel ban that's effective at reducing the chances of danger from terrorists, since Trump REFUSES to ban travel from the country that's been the #1 source of terrorists who've committed MASS MURDER of Americans. Because folks, both you and I are certainly aware that any travel ban that stops people of foreign countries from coming here, with the basic goal of that ban being to make it less likely that terrorists will come to America, MUST be a travel ban that includes Saudi Arabia, if such a ban is to make ANY SENSE, at all! But sadly, since Donald Trump is a man who obviously has more love for his money, than he does for his country, then, just for the sake of him and his family maximizing their potential for profits in possible deals with rich Saudis, Mr Trump, as President, simply behaves in an incredibly TRUSTING way toward the Saudis, as he shapes America's policy regarding their country. It's sad having a leader who gives his personal profit a much higher priority than he gives to the safety of America, and our people, which he had sworn to protect, when he took the oath of office on January 20th 2017. But fortunately folks, on November 3rd 2020, America's voters can remedy that pathetic situation."

Yup, fellow Trump critics, I sure hope that the person who the Democrats nominate to take on Trump in 2020, will be someone who enjoys throwing hard punches, of that same personal type of nature, as the attack on Trump that I just imagined, directly above this.

We all know that Trump is going to be incredibly nasty as the Presidential campaign keeps shifting into higher gears.

But I think that Donald's nastiness can actually be made to backfire against him if various Democrats will get into regularly launching some very personal attacks against Trump that really get under Donald's skin. Because Trump has such an automatic reflex of quickly hitting back at people who criticise him, whether their criticisms are large or small, that some very hard hitting personal attacks against Trump are likely to elicit some truly off the wall, and quite offensive responses from Donald, that the scumbag simply won't have taken the time to think through, and realize how huge numbers of Americans would find those Trump responses to be quite disturbing.

BTW, around 4 or 5 weeks ago, Pete Buttigieg, made some news, and got a bunch of TV coverage for a very personal attack that he made against Trump while giving an interview to a journalist on TV.

Mayor Pete had been talking about having served as a combat soldier in Afghanistan, when he brought up the subject of people who have physical disabilities and how he has no trouble with people who legitimately have physical disabilities being given certain advantages, and receiving financial benefits that go to people who must contend with being disabled.

But then, Mr Buttigieg said that what he does have a BIG PROBLEM with is someone like Mr Trump, with Mayor Pete going on to pull no punches at all, as he bluntly stated that Trump had committed fraud to avoid being drafted into military service, by Donald Trump faking a disability by paying a doctor to falsely certify that Donald had a bone spur in his foot, which made him unfit for military service. And Mayor Pete went on to say that during the 2016 Presidential campaign, Donald Trump's lawyer had asked Trump for any medical evidence that Donald had for his medical "disability", because the lawyer said that reporters were sure to ask about Trump's medical deferment from being subject to getting drafted into military service. But according to Mr Buttigieg, Donald responded to his lawyer by indicating that he had no such medical evidence, with Trump then saying directly to his lawyer "I wasn't stupid, so there was no way that I was going to Vietnam!" Then Trump told his lawyer that whenever a journalist might inquire about his medical deferment from the draft "Just tell him Mr Trump was deferred for medical reasons, and leave it at that."

And Pete Buttigieg concluded his remarks that attacked Trump, by saying that he's deeply offended by the fact that some young American of the low income segment of his country's population, or even a young person above that level, may have died in Vietnam, in Donald Trump's place, literally due to the fact that Donald was the rich boy who was able to buy his way out of being subject to the draft.

Now folks, days after that Mayor Pete interview had made news due to Buttigieg's claim that Trump committed fraud by faking a medical disability, and being falsely certified as medically ineligible to be drafted into military service, a new and interesting aspect related to the Mayor's claim about Trump, began to emerge. Because, though we all know that Trump almost always responds to any a criticism of him by quickly launching his own attack against whoever offered that criticism, as far as I know, Trump never fired back at Buttigieg, or even tried to put forward any kind of response to the VERY SERIOUS charge which Mayor Pete had leveled against Donald. And what that tells me is that the details that Pete Buttigieg gave about Trump having managed to make himself seem medically unfit to serve in our military must be pretty damned accurate.

So since it appears that Pete Buttigieg's criticism of Trump, for Donald having faked a physical disability to avoid military service, seems to be a legitimate line of attack to use against Trump, if the 20 plus Democrats now running for President were smart, every one of them would make a point of bringing up Trump's faking of a disability during interviews, or within the appearances that the candidates make on the campaign trail.

Because if every candidate was talking about Trump faking a disability to avoid military service, such a constantly heard, and ugly refrain, would put such a bug up Trump's ass, and get so deep under Donald's skin, that he'd be going totally BONKERS, resulting in most of the American people saying to themselves "There's something seriously wrong with our orange headed President!"

Really, I genuinely wish that all of those Democrat candidates would go on the attack against Trump, in just the way that I described.

Man, it sure would be fun watching Donald Trump trying to respond to those attacks, because with Trump knowing that about every American was hearing 1, or more, candidates making the same serious charge against him, Donald would really have no choice, other than to try coming up with an answer to the folks saying he's a guy who fraudulently pretended to be disabled, to avoid military service.

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^If this is a published article, would you like to give us the source?
 
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SOME Americans. Remember, he lost the popular vote.

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I Hope That Someone On This Thread Can Answer A Brief Question About Trump.


The question I'm asking is if anyone here has read or heard, Trump give any response to the following charge against Donald which Mayor Pete Buttigieg put forward, when Buttigieg was interviewed by ABC's Martha Raddatz.


Buttigieg said the following about Mr Trump, as Ms Raddatz was interviewing the Mayor for the Sunday morning public affairs TV news program: ABC's This Week- "You have somebody who thinks it’s alright to let somebody go in his place into a deadly war, and is willing to pretend to be disabled in order to do it. That is an assault on the honor of this country."

And since Buttigieg, himself, did a combat tour in Afghanistan, the Mayor obviously has a lot more credibility in discussing our military, and war, than our so-called Commander-in-Chief does.

Anyhow folks, does anyone here know of any response that Trump may have given to that extremely serious, publicly made allegation, that, as a young man, Donald had fraudulently portrayed himself as suffering from a physical disability, so he could avoid being drafted, and possibly being sent to Vietnam, as an Army draftee?

Also, Mr Buttigieg has added another detail, with the Mayor saying that Trump even paid a doctor to falsely certify Donald's FAKE disability, which is quite a SERIOUS charge, indeed!

Certainly Trump, and his re-election team, are well aware of Buttigieg's charge that Donald defrauded the government by pretending to have a disability, to avoid military service, so if Mr Trump, a character who usually fights back against any kind of criticism aimed at him, has just REMAINED SILENT, since Mayor Buttigieg began claiming that Trump committed a serious federal crime, then the American people are now witnessing a classic case of some REALLY DAMNING Donald Trump SILENCE!

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Sorry to burst Buttigieg's bubble, but that's old news. Not saying it's not true, just that the story's been around for a while. A while back, Senator Tammy Duckworth called him

Sadly, it's yet another example of conservative's hypocrisy in ignoring the Orange One's hypocrisy. Such as bringing into the US his wife's parents under "chain migration", outsourcing his wives, "Mexico will pay for the wall" - then stealing money from the Defense Dept. to pay for his wall, the Mueller report totally exonerated him, ... The list is endless.


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Sorry Simon, but it's not that simple. There is some truth to what you've said. The Orange One definitely likes to steer attention away from his misdeeds by spewing his hate. In an ideal world, we could just ignore it. Like the crazy, cranky old man at the end of the bar, ranting on and on about every grievance. The problem is that this crazy, cranky old man is the freaking President. A lot of people listen to him. If one is silent in the face of such bigotry, one is giving silent approval. AND, the more that the Orange One spews his hatred, the more that people like him think that it's OK to spew it themselves. And to attack people they don't like. Hate-based attacks are definitely on the upswing in the U.S. since the Orange One took office. His hateful comments are like embers in a pine forest. If you don't stamp them out early, they'll burn out of control.

BTW, kudos for your post about Gerald Ford pardoning Nixon. What was shocking to me was the number of posts debating if Pence could pardon the Orange One, when such a thing already happened. "Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it."

 
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Thanks for this; I have said the same thing many, many times. Once he became the constant front-runner in the primaries, it became impossible to ignore him or treat him like a joke. These people filling up his Adolphian rallies were deadly serious and they voted.
 
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Trump having faked a disability to avoid military service, during Vietnam, may be old news to many folks, but I'd bet that if you randomly selected 100 adults at your nearest Wal-Mart, and brought up that issue with them, at least 50 of those people would reveal that they'd never heard that Donald had faked having a disability.

And the best way to make the greatest number of Americans aware of that Donald Trump fraud, is for his Democratic opponent to hit Donald over the head with Trump's disability scam, as the Democrat is summing things up near the conclusion of a nationally televised debate. Such a debate will be an occasion when a GREATER NUMBER of Americans will be listening to what the candidates have to say, than the number of people who will be paying much attention to those candidates during any of the other types of appearances that the candidates will make during their 2020 campaigns.

And in a debate with Trump the Democratic Presidential nominee could say something like this: "Folks, since a President also holds the position of Commander-in-Chief of America's armed forces, a President must be someone who's worthy of asking the young men and women of our country's military, to even be willing to risk making the ultimate sacrifice, if a serious situation or crisis would face America, and make it necessary for our country to fight. But as a young man, Donald Trump fraudulently pretended to have a physical disability, so that he could avoid being drafted, and also avoid the danger of possibly dying, or being wounded, in Vietnam, if he were to be drafted. And Donald Trump has actually told people that the greatest danger he faced during the Vietnam years was contracting a venereal disease from the women he was picking up at Studio 54. Anyway, young Donald was lucky that he was from a wealthy family, which afforded him the resources for bribing a doctor to produce a false certification document attesting to Donald having a fictional disability, a document Mr Trump was then able to present to officials at his local draft board, to establish that he was supposedly UNFIT for service in America's military. Well folks, that type of unfitness WASN'T true, but what I can honestly say is that Mr Trump IS genuinely UNFIT to be leading Americans, especially if America enters into a time of war. So if Donald Trump wants to continue accomplishing his various types of deceptions and frauds, which he began resorting to in the business world, AFTER he had avoided military service, America's voters should make sure that today's President CAN ONLY continue with his never ending lies and deceptions, as a PRIVATE citizen, by those voters sentencing him to a life long TERM as a private citizen, which will officially commence on Jan. 20 2021, as Mr Trump leaves PUBLIC office, by exiting the Presidency, after a solid majority of the voters had ALREADY rejected his re-election bid, on Tuesday November 3rd 2020."

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It's not a published article, but is mostly just stuff sourced from Wikipedia, as well as from
various Trump biographers, and investigative journalists, who I've seen speaking on TV.


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It used to be that you could demonstrate that you were racist by describing someone as 'clean' or 'articulate'. Now we got this guy, just saying that you're disease-ridden rapists, your neighborhood is an infestation, and you should go back where you came from. What's next?


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Come on realtip, if Trump was actually giving Americans what they want, he'd quit the tweeting, a Trump obsession, which 2 out of 3 Americans consistently tell survey takers they view as being more of a negative & unappealing Trump habit, than it is a positive one.

And since the latest polling shows that the people of my home state of Ohio, prefer Joe Biden to Donald Trump by an 8 point margin, Trump is OBVIOUSLY NOT giving the American people what they want. Because, as shown by the vote tallies in the history of all our Presidential elections, Ohioans tend to give GOP Presidential candidates a HIGHER percentage of their votes, by a few points, compared to the nationwide average percentage of the vote that those Republican candidates get from America's total population.

In other words, Ohio is a little MORE Republican, and a little MORE conservative, than America is, overall.

And that's why NO Republican Presidential candidate HAS EVER won the Presidency, while LOSING Ohio.

So since Ohio is a MUST WIN state for any Republican candidate, it's very bad news for Trump to see that he's trailing Biden here.

And BTW, there have been Democratic Presidential candidates who WON the Presidency, even though they LOST Ohio in the election, but the same thing simply can't be said about ANY Republican who has ever run for the Presidency.

Of course, I'm not surprised that so many people of the normally Republican state that I live in, reject Trump in favor of Biden. Since, as former Secretary of Defense, and also former CIA Director, Leon Panetta, an honorable man, recently said, most Americans can easily sense the truth that Joe Biden is basically a good human being, with a good heart, while those same people can easily see that Mr Trump ISN'T a good human being, and his often VILE words CERTAINLY SHOW folks that Donald Trump SERIOUSLY LACKS having a good heart!

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Did Drumpf dodge the draft personally or did Fred save him from it by paying off a doctor to make a dubious diagnosis to excuse Drumpf from service?

In any case, there's no denying that loads of people aren't aware of Drumpf's draft dodging.


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But while we both agree that "loads of people aren't aware of Drumpf's draft dodging", to use your words, it's fortunate, though, that due to the constantly outrageous, as well as incredibly negative, statements from Trump, which Donald now seems to dump on America with ever increasing frequency, with each new week that passes, it has simply become IMPOSSIBLE for a solid majority of Americans to NOT BE AWARE that America has a President who is a more nasty and divisive figure than even Nixon was, at the height of the Vietnam War.

I was 6 months short of 18 years old, when Nixon was inaugurated to become America's 37th President, in January of 1969. So I well remember how divided that America became, after Richard Nixon took over managing the Vietnam War from President Johnson, and that war became more and more unpopular, as it basically continued to rage on during the first 4 years that Nixon was President. But even as divided as America became under Nixon, due to the often heated disagreements that went on between many Americans, concerning our country's involvement in Vietnam, I still maintain that Trump exceeds Nixon in the category of political leaders who, for political purposes, deliberately go out of their way to divide the people of their countries, and increase hatred between the members of rival groups.

BTW, on CNN, Monday night, David Axelrod made the observation that much of the American public is simply becoming exhausted by the almost constant state of controversy in America, that's basically the result of Donald Trump, as President, making provocative statements almost every day, which cause division and strife among America's people.

And IMO, that exhaustion factor, which results from the continual controversy that Trump's tweets & spoken statements, generate, is 1 of the biggest reasons why Joe Biden is so far ahead of the rest of his Democratic competitors, right now. Because naturally, Americans tend to associate Mr Biden with the Presidency of "No Drama Obama", which conjures up a pleasant image in the minds of so many people, of an America, at a very calm time, when its President never engaged in name-calling against other people, and certainly, was never seen by our country's people, speaking, or acting, in the kind of negative and nasty manner, which President Trump is becoming so infamous for.

Yup, if Joe Biden wins the Democratic Presidential nomination in 2020, IMO, an obviously decent man, like Mr Biden, who's also quite popular among blue collar workers, should have little trouble defeating someone as obviously creepy, as Mr Trump, a man who most folks define as a liar, when survey takers ask those people to provide just 1 WORD, which best describes Donald Trump.

 
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No offense Zoiper, but your last paragraph there is extremely faulty.

In sheer principle you are correct, Biden **SHOULD** beat Trump. But *SHOULD* is a word that can only be used in conjunction in a world where standard probabilities apply. This is no longer that world. The natural rules of order don't apply to the Orange Goblin.
He should have never ascended to the top of the GOP primary.

He should not have been able to beat Hillary Clinton.

He should have been impeached long ago.

He should have an approval rating in the single digits.


He was able to win thanks to a deeply divided Democratic party and the Electoral college. That could very easily happen again next year.


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But Smiler, here's the thing, Hillary underperformed in 2016, in attracting the votes of African Americans, as she got 6 million votes LESS than Barack Obama did in 2012, and Clinton got 10 MILLION FEWER votes than Mr Obama attracted in 2008, to make him President.
(Of course, I'm NOT SAYING that ALL of Hillary's 2016 shortfall in voter support, was due to the reduction in African Americans voting. Because, for example, pissed off Bernie Sanders supporters having stayed home on Election Day, were also part of that shortfall.)

Now Smiler, since you're African American, yourself, your perspective is bound to be more vivid than mine, regarding how a large portion of African American folks must be getting increasingly angry at Trump, in each passing week, as they constantly see America's #1 Racist going after successful black Americans who range from members of "The Squad" to Congressman Elijah Cummings, to Rev. Al Sharpton.

So my friend, Trump isn't going to lose in 2020, just because he SHOULD, but rather, he's going to get buried in 2020's election because Donald's racist attacks on people of color will cause African Americans to turnout in the SAME kind of numbers that they did for Barack Obama. Because there is NOTHING that's more effective than ANGER in motivating people to get up off their couches, and go to vote.

Back in April, a young African American cable TV installer was at our house, who said he was 24, and who openly displayed strong hostility toward Trump, right after the conman's face appeared on our living room's TV screen, which instantly caused me to blurt out: "I could NEVER vote for THAT CREEP!

Anyway, Smiler, people such as yourself, and the cable TV man I mentioned, are obviously much more likely to possess a highly accurate measure of the feelings of black Americans, than someone like me could have, by my living every day, in a basically all-white, little city in Ohio. Yet, I have a very strong feeling that you're basically in full agreement with me that Trump's multiple attacks on prominent black Americans have just succeeded at causing most black folks in America, to become SERIOUSLY PISSED OFF!

So, IMO, that anger that Trump is stoking among black Americans amounts to a virtual death warrant for Trump's re-election chances.

Because, we also must remember, that's Trump's 2016 campaign rhetoric of "Mexican rapists & drug dealers", and America's big cities supposedly suffering from more blight than undeveloped third world countries suffer from, ALREADY had the effect, in 2016, of inspiring VERY HIGH voter turnout among America's racists.

So what I'm saying is that the 2016 election was a case of Trump having come extremely close to having reached his MAXIMUM CEILING of support, in terms of the voter turnout that occurred for Trump. And that was VERIFIED by reports from election officials in the rural areas of America, where Trump support is STRONGEST, who stated on 2016's election night, that they were STUNNED by the record high level of turnout of rural voters, which was a greater level of turnout than those election officials had ever expected to see in any election!

So Smiler, I hope it makes you feel a little better to know, that since Trump came so close to hitting his maximum ceiling of voter support in 2016, he has VERY LITTLE ROOM to grow more support for 2020, while, on the other hand, the Democratic Presidential candidate of 2020, will have A LOT OF ROOM to grow his, or her, voter support, WELL ABOVE the level of support Clinton got from the people in 2016.

Yup, Trump's racism is not only crude & stupid, but his hate filled words will certainly end up being a disastrous political tactic for the scumbag, since Trump's hate will inspire black Americans to vote in the kind of huge numbers not seen since Barack Obama's 2 elections.

Yeah, thanks to the crude and divisive political approach being utilized by Trump, the famed Obama Coalition will be making a comeback in 2020, to whip the racist creep's ass!

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Okay.

It's the lowest of the low.

TGrump's website is offering plastic straws for sale.

A straw. A plastic straw. A comment on some cities banning single-use plastic straws. The straw is red. The straw says 'TRUMP' on it. Ten straws for $15. For ten. Ten plastic straws. Morons have spent over $450,000 on them.

Evidently they are looking for more money-making ideas. Probably something that will deliberately raise CO2 levels. Maybe pickup trucks with terrible emissions. Or something with freon, or just some waste runoff from factories for people to dump in their own local lakes.

"C'mon people, think! Let's get some great ideas going!"

 
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The thing is, I do wonder about that ceiling. Many people, particularly men --- and even African American men -- are impressed by "strong leadership". I can't help but go back to 2004, when, even after we came up empty on "Weapons of Mass Destruction" GW Bush still won. One of the reasons people were quoted as saying? "Well, he's providing strong leadership. Even if he's wrong at least he says he's going to do something and sticks to it."


Now, is that one of the fuckingest stupid sentences a grown adult can possibly utter? Oh, my yes. But nevertheless, that was the mindset for many in 2004. And from some co-workers, I've heard "hey he's talking to North Korea which is, an amazing feat." Mother-FUCK. As we were talking about how many Goblin voters don't know certain things about him, they don't go under the headlines and see how back-asswards his flailing foreign policy is.

He certainly stirs up a lot of emotion, and make no doubt, this is going to be just as emotional as 2016 was, if not more.

I hope you're right of course. Personally, I'm leaning more towards Kamala Harris as THE person who can defeat Goblin, but make no mistake I'm voting for the Dem candidate, regardless.
I would just temper expectations.


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No argument from me at all. As you said, Nixon divided America by policy and ideology. Drumpf divided and continues to divide America by people like the Nazi party did in Germany.
 
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Is what you posted written in your words? Or are they words compiled from other places? If they are the former, they are okay. If they are the latter, you can't put them here without full attribution.

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Well Flash, I get stuff from a whole bunch of places such as TV interviews, stuff on NPR, and facts that Wikipedia points out, and then in putting together a post to make a point, or points, I almost always put things in my own words as I'm throwing together a bunch of facts that come from several different sources. But to be very careful, with you cautioning me this evening, and also because typing long posts with my hunt and peck method, is wearing out this guy who has a lung disease, from here on in, I think I'll just stick to making, brief, logical arguments, which only require the use of facts that are common knowledge, like Hillary Clinton having underperformed in 2016's election, in terms of her having attracted considerably fewer votes from African Americans, than a Democrat is usually expected to get.

And I'll also choose to use other information that's widely known to people here, such as Trump's criticisms of the Congressional district that Congressman Elijah Cummings represents, because those Trump attacks have been so heavily covered in the mainstream media.


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I remember when, as a school kid, the story about George Washington and the cherry tree, was presented to us kids. And as the story went, when George Washington was a young boy, he used an axe to cut down a cherry tree that his father valued. And when George's father angrily demanded to know who had cut down that tree, young George, though somewhat scared by his father's manner, still answered honestly, right away, by saying "I cannot tell a lie, because I cut down that cherry tree."

However folks, imagine if a young Donald Trump had faced the exact same situation in having his father pose the same question about a prized cherry tree, which Donald had chopped down.

In contrast to that story about George Washington (a person later known for his honesty, as President), most Americans would not be surprised if a young Donald Trump would have answered his father like this: "Well Father, I really can't say who might have chopped down your cherry tree, although I saw a black man in the area. Anyway, I did notice that I've saved enough of my allowance, to be able to afford legal counsel, so I'll have an attorney get back to you, concerning this unfortunate matter, in due course.

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