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I wasn't arguing with you. I was giving an example.

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Amazon is bigger than Walmart now, but they're both run by assholes oppressing and underpaying their workers. They are big businesses that will inevitably die, but not soon enough for many wrecked small towns.

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Posted - Feb 13 2015 : 1:32PM
Bezos has said that all businesses eventually go away. I have no problem with them. Our government is in the pocket of monied interests. That's where you should be aiming your anger.
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location, location, location. Pittsburgh? Wonder what the other 39 are.
The one in Towson isn't going anywhere. And the store is completely outdated. Still does lots of business.
The whole mall thing is a mystery to me. Hunt Valley Town Center is no surprise since it's rebirth with Wegman's, the Movie Theater (which was built a few years before the old mall was torn down), and restaurants, but Towson Town is a total mystery. The well healed of West Towson heading towards Falls Road, and Green Spring $$$ Valley. Nordstrom rack is pretty good, but the mall is so overpriced. They did build something accross the street. More restaurants, and a movie theater.
Trying to look like Harbor East (Little Dubai).
Funny, thirty years ago I worked at Bamburger's, which would be bought by, and become Macy's, and they had an electronics department. Mostly stereo equipment. None of which I remember being very good (Worth something in today's vintage market). And now it will be phones, PC's, and Laptops, mixed with some stereo gear.
 
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Posted - Jan 27 2016 : 12:11PM
The Sears Deathwatch continues...

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Posted - Jan 27 2016 : 5:50PM
I was in an outer suburb today. The huge parking lots are lined with trendy overpriced crap, and the roads are shit.
 
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I mentioned this thread to my husband this morning. Just now he tried to call a Benjamin Moore paint store, and he got a message that doesn't even identify the shop, and simply says they can't take your call right now. It DOES offer to take your message. Some don't. He got that message when he phoned yesterday as well. Now he's saying, "That's why retail stores are tanking."
Here's the thing. Your phone message is your ambassador to people who phone. It's free to have a good phone message instead of a shitty one. Stores seem to put zero thought into that. Last Christmas I phoned about a half dozen or more stores (Pier One, Michael's, etc.) to see what their hours would be on December 26th. NONE of them had it on their phone message. On their websites, maybe half did. I fail to see what excuse for a website could have, on December 24th, for listing their regular hours with just a notation that "Holiday hours may vary."
Locally, if I order something in the shops, they tell me to try back in a week, or they say they expect it in in a week. They call or don't call; it comes in on time or it doesn't. I order stuff on amazon, and it shows up a couple of days later.
The nearest Walmart is an hour and a half from here, in the nearest city that has stores that aren't mom and pop stores. If I have a return, I'll be in line for 15 minutes, with another five to ten for some sort of fuss where they have to call the manager about something. I've had them take a crazy long time for returns there. I tell them that it's that much less time that I'll be shopping.
I'm not saying amazon's perfect. But the hassle level is very low compared to some brick and mortar places.
And if I click to have amazon phone me, the phone rings about 3 seconds later, and I get a human right away. What's up with that? The online place has humans, but you can barely get a human in person in a Walmart.
 
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Posted - Aug 11 2016 : 9:22PM
^ I have a similar bitch about local business websites. You look up a restaurant and they load it heavy with graphics of the food, review snippets from the local paper, appeals to Like them on Facebook, follow on Twitter, etc. Contact info is buried, incomplete, or missing entirely.
This is what I think should show up first thing on the website, above the fold:
Company name
Full address, and a description of cross streets or the name of the mall or center, etc. would be nice
Phone number / email
Hours open
And an actual photo of the establishment OUTSIDE would be nice. Something where if I'm driving by, I'd recognize it from the street. That's amazingly helpful and yet hardly anyone does it--even people who are located in crooks and corners where they're hard to see even from the parking lot.
I don't think people spend much time really putting themselves in their customers' shoes.
 
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Posted - Aug 12 2016 : 5:49AM
Look beyond the surface and this economic recovery sucks.Not everyone works for Facebook,Tesla,Google or Apple.Look at Kraft- Heinz(Warren Buffet)slashed 7,000 jobs,but they reported record profits and he is for little guy.Many people are struggling to survive week to week,and these record car sales,don't look at the amount of sub prime loans manufacturers are using to sell them.My son had to cut employees at his retail store that he manages,which means less service for customers.
 
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Posted - Aug 12 2016 : 11:09PM
^ Yeah, i agree with this dude.
The recovery is tepid, at best. With where exactly you are in the country being a significant factor. Real Estate losses were a killer and those dollars haven't nearly come back.
That's good for the vultures, but overall, no good.
90's are gone. Wish I'd have known about 'em when they were happening.
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Posted - Aug 12 2016 : 11:49PM
The cost of a more remote living. I can get to anything without a car.
Can't you look up store hours online? Even if they are holiday hours.
What about ordering something online, and making sure it has free return shipping. Any place that's good should give you 90 days to return something. And damn if I am in a hurry. If it's a gift, and unless it's a small child they can wait a little bit. Pick a better time to take it back. Like not on the weekend.
I really like Amazon. I try to buy free return shipping items. Not always possible.
Yep, poor customer service usually mean the store is like a ship that's sinking. It's just taken a couple of decades for my local Sears to complete it's slide. What an awful store.
I have not bought anything in Sears for 20 years, and Macy's for 10. Both stores suck in different ways. Macy's prices are a complete joke! Nordstrom blows them away.

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Posted - Aug 12 2016 : 11:56PM
We are getting away from service jobs. You are going to be paid on the basis of what you know. And how educated you are.
I agree, the economy is not great but for a certain group of individuals I described above. One reason I refuse to vote. I see nothing but lip service, and nonsense.
Buffet bought interest in Heinz, but did he really cut those jobs? Shit these types of loses can be traced back to GM, and Bethlehem Steel. A shit load of workers making more than could be possibly needed.
 
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Posted - Jan 5 2017 : 1:52AM
[link inactive:404 - Page not found]Sears closing more stores.

Big problem: in many of the areas where they operate, rents and home prices keep going up, while retail stores keep getting pressured to keep wages and prices down. Your classic no-win situation.

 
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Looking at some of these pictures, its not hard to see why Trump won. Women's clothing stores simply can't provide the sustenance for these huge stores that they used to.
 
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As I said, only about half of the stores had the holiday hours posted. The hours looked like this:
This does me no good if I want to be at their store when they open the day after Christmas.
Edited by - Pieps on 3/7/2017 1:04:00 PM
 
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Posted - Mar 7 2017 : 7:45PM
Bricks & Mortar stores can't sell things they don't stock.
This week, I found an item I wanted to buy, and tried to find it at a local store.
No one carried it.
Not Home Depot, Lowes, Bed Bath and Beyond, Walmart, Best Buy, Target -- all stores that should have carried it in stock (or at least a competing product).
Most of them didn't even stock a single item in the product category.
Instead, they all listed 50-100 items as available for order online only, nothing actually physically available in the stores.
A word to the buyers:
If I have to purchase items online, I'm going to buy it from Amazon.com every goddamn time!
If it's an electronics item, I will buy it from Newegg.com and/or Amazon.com.
Bricks and Mortar stores are not going to survive trying to compete online with Amazon.com
FYI, -- from Amazon.com.

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Posted - Mar 7 2017 : 10:39PM
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I have bought several pairs of nylon, fleece lined pants with zippered front, and rear pockets. Different kinds. They are all Chinese made, and were purchased on Amazon for under $40 a pair. I have had people ask me where I got my pants.
No store has anything like these. And especially at these prices.
I did buy a Kuhl Intercptr (That's how it's spelled) Sweater Jacket from REI on sale because I liked how it was made, and could wear it as a layer, or a jacket. And it was on sale and still $85. I had a $40 gift card.
I see very little I would buy new in a store.
And used goods stores are one of the fastest growing retail sectors. I can get just about anything in a thrift.
There is a habitat for humanity around the corner that has all kinds of used tools, flooring, furniture........cheap!
Edited by - 2ferme on 3/8/2017 10:27:20 AM
 
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NYC's Carnegie Deli said Zey Gazunt in January.
 
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Posted - Mar 8 2017 : 6:13AM
^ what's happened to New York is a sin. It's like they're trying to make it into another Dubai.
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Posted - Mar 29 2017 : 12:55AM

One of their problems is that their floor people mostly work on commission. I don't believe that model can work in the age of Amazon.

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Posted - Mar 29 2017 : 3:26AM
I believe Sears issued a "going concern" warning, and worse, said the PBGC has lien against an future asset sales. That lien will kill them quickly.

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Posted - Mar 29 2017 : 7:18PM
^^^ Even just 10 years ago the Manhattan delis in midtown were awesome. You could order a fantastic Ruben, or many other classic sandwiches, for 10 bucks, and get more than enough sandwich for two lunches. They prided themselves on this and had the wrapping for to go ready, because this was part of their marketing.
But this story is much older than a lot of you realize. Anyone know of Abercrombie & Fitch? A teen clothing store, right? Wrong. I started doing overnight backpacking trips in New England in the early 70's. I took the train into Manhattan and walked to the mid town location of their flagship store, started in 1892. It was f----ing amazing. It was seven stories tall of everything outdoors.They had baskets for riding elephants, sleds for the Arctic dog teams, and everything in between. The section for fly fishing was at least 50 by 100 feet. I needed a down sleeping bag. The section was 80 by 40 feet of down sleeping bags, hanging on racks, with their stuff bags clipped with them. You could just walk down the aisle to find the loft you needed. I also got a frame enclosed back pack, state of the art way back then. The prices were very reasonable. They supplied all the US expeditions, from the 1890's on, to Africa, the North Pole, Antarctica. Walking through this store was like walking through a museum, except everything was new, and for sale, but it was all the equipment that the explorers had used for decades.
Then came REI and other stores like them that took pieces of the business. It's similar to what has happened in the airline industry with companies like Jet Blue only going after choice air routes.
In any event, I am really happy I was able to see it when I was a teenager. Almost everyone I tell has no idea. But the economy changes, competition. Se la vie.
Edited by - tripper on 3/29/2017 7:19:09 PM

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I've always wondered how they stayed open in the first place. I don't have any where I live, but I have visited several HH Gregg stores on my travels. It's always seemed to me HH Gregg could not decide what kind of store it wanted to be so they just put the lowest level of everything they had in there. I remember reading on discussion boards before going into one how good their electronics were. Then I visited one and wondered how much those people really know about electronics. I've never found anything special in there and certainly not at prices that would make me turn my head.

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Posted - Mar 29 2017 : 8:21PM
I would love to go shopping at early 1960's FAO Schwarz. I would bring back some Helen Ratkai dressed Steiffs. Time travel shopping would be cool.
The malls aren't coming back anymore than 'the jobs' and the railroads and the coal mines. And for the same sorts of reasons.

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Posted - Mar 29 2017 : 8:30PM
Oh Peips, I couldn't agree with you more. In the 60's I was there, but I was a pre-teen and too stupid to appreciate it. That would be so cool to go back now. With all these tech geeks, we really need some time machines so we could do something fun.
Edited by - tripper on 3/29/2017 8:32:23 PM
 
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^ He missed a huge reason about cameras. Cameras are an integral component of smartphones. You can take pretty good quality shots without knowing more than point, hold steady, and click. You only need separate cameras if you want really high-quality shots, telescopy, or you take a lot of action stills.

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Posted - Apr 2 2017 : 1:58AM
And you still do not need a Camera Shop for any of that.

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Good record shops aren't going anywhere. It's the opposite of what has happened in many retail sectors. The big box chain stores died in favor of indie shops. It's all about being hip.
That's why I will flip multiple stacks of records to a local shop over the next couple weeks. They will pay on average 2, 3 times what I pay( Sometimes more, much more), and then flip them for 2, or 3 times what they give me. And if I choose a credit, and get something for a small fraction of what I would pay for it up front. Even potentially flipping what I got with my credit.
Again, used, pre-owned shops of in demand salable items are one of the strongest brick and mortar retail sectors. And it's still tied to E-Commerce.
Edited by - 2ferme on 4/2/2017 8:17:58 PM
 
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Posted - Apr 8 2017 : 1:15PM
And it's not just Amazon killing them. these places have to compete with Home Depot, and Lowes, and even Sears for appliances . There was only one in my area several miles away, I was in it once, and was like big deal. And it's only been there maybe a little over 10 years. I can't see how they thought they were going to compete in this area.
Sorry to see people loose their jobs.

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Posted - Apr 8 2017 : 1:20PM
And I see Payless is going by also.
I know people are limited in their resources, but buy some good fucking shoes! I think a lot of these cheap shoe joints cater to women who say oh those are pretty. And they are cheap.
I have never understood the make up, and uncomfortable shoe fetish women seem to be enamored with.
 
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Payless may be poor management or debt overload. I don't know too many people, men or women, who buy shoes online.
They may have to change their name to Pay-More.
 
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Bethesda is a pricey Maryland suburb with homes in the million dollar range. But it's going under for the same reason there's no more Barnes & Nobles left in downtown DC anymore. (for that matter there's no major bookstores anywhere there anymore). The management company wants to renew the lease at a higher rent and at this point, it's trying to squeeze blood from a stone.
People use the store for "showrooming" i.e., they go check out something at the store, but then go online and buy it at a cheaper price. The Bethesda store, with its three levels, is a highly popular stop on book signing tours and for book clubs and stuff. People will buy toys and books for their kids there, and they'll go for that last minute gift they need at Christmas, and for the built in Starbucks, but otherwise they just aren't buying books there anymore. And anytime I go in a B and N there's tumbleweeds in the cd/dvd section. I don't know why they don't just close that section down.
Nothing has come along to replace the Harry Potter phenomenon either, so that's another ding for them.

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^
What's amazing is how many of these leases have, are, and will expire in a small time frame. And nearly every damn one of these places has gotten more money.
It's like all of these leases were 20 year leases signed in the early, mid 90's.
That grocery store I worked for has not had that location filled, nor the now defunct Ale House (Padonia Station, Christophers/Numbers, and the Flaming Pit many moons ago).
Way to many shopping centers around here.
I bought my La Sportiva's online.

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Posted - Apr 8 2017 : 7:06PM
It's funny, not in a laughable way, that 30 years ago there were many independent bookstores with rare and unique books and a staff that knew about books. Barnes and Noble drove many of them out of business.
I do not support "showrooming". When I moved to my current area 30 years ago we had a very nice family owned wine shop that did education, tastings, dinners, and other things that were not common in the day, but now they are. And they have a lot more competition now. They are a little more expensive, but also have a great selection and bring in things others don't. Once a month they have these evening tastings, after store hours, where one of their distributors will bring in things to show off. We pay for these tastings, and they give us special offers if we order that night. When I find wines I like, even though I can find them cheaper elsewhere, I will always order 6 or 12 bottles from them, because they introduced me to it. They tell me that they see people at these tastings price shopping the same wines on their phones during the tastings. Great way to close down a store that introduces you to these fine wines.
 
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^^Tthere's a TON of empty commercial space in the DC area right now. I was surprised to find this out. And again, that's in the most high priced sections. No shortage of $800K townhomes and such, but the more of those that get built the more stores that can't afford to stay open. The very things that all these young, affluent college grads moved into the area FOR, are leaving.

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B&N and Borders. Borders used to be one of those independent bookstores with rare and unique books with a staff that knew books, then they got chain superstore fever.
 
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Oh c'mon, it's for all that city vibrancy, that's why those well healed ivy league collage grads moved there.
That area down there is overpriced as hell. They could care less.
 
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[link inactive:404 - Page not found]Sears is caught in a vicious cycle:

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